tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post5362380643738332178..comments2024-02-10T23:32:15.095-08:00Comments on TRISHUL: Stop The AbusePrasun K Senguptahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00369323150694008798noreply@blogger.comBlogger79125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-71765026764638083202009-06-06T11:47:27.325-07:002009-06-06T11:47:27.325-07:00did mig-21 ever fired R-77 beyound 18km launch?did mig-21 ever fired R-77 beyound 18km launch?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-16534054130601418702009-06-04T12:50:24.707-07:002009-06-04T12:50:24.707-07:00Aerostats can see at most 100km from their altitud...Aerostats can see at most 100km from their altitude(1000m)<br />------------------------------<br />what is the source of this info<br /><br />now a gound based radar can see upto 250-300km high altitude and 25-40 km low level altitude and a radar at 1 km altitude can see much farther than 250km with very good low level detection rangeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-16650231903617375912009-06-04T09:41:42.756-07:002009-06-04T09:41:42.756-07:00and an awacs cost 400million and 150-200 aerostat...and an awacs cost 400million and 150-200 aerostats can be bought in this price which is good compared to use awacs all the timeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-43527890638239853972009-06-04T09:10:39.126-07:002009-06-04T09:10:39.126-07:00to anon above
aerostat radars can aslo be used a...to anon above<br /><br /><br />aerostat radars can aslo be used at 15000 feet as well and we don't need to ask chinese as we also have 15000 feet above sea level areas along chinese borders and there aerostat radar can be used easily<br /><br />u are talking about china and china is too big and what will the 300km range of phalcon will do in this<br /><br />and phalcon will be flying 100kn inside border and the range will then be only 200km inside chinese border <br /><br />and yes there is no need to fly awacs 24/7,and there is no country fly their awacs 24/7,till now we have lived withoput awacs coverage and still we get early warning <br /><br />and how many phalcons needed ????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-19665965959368576652009-06-04T02:16:28.121-07:002009-06-04T02:16:28.121-07:00Aerostats can see at most 100km from their altitud...Aerostats can see at most 100km from their altitude(1000m). The Tibetan plateau is 15000 feet above sea level. To get any kind of coverage in the north eastern theater we will have to practically climb up the hills and ask the Chinese sentries to hold the balloon. Check the geography of the region. Also how many Aerostats you think will be required to cover our borders.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-65991985085731879822009-06-03T16:13:37.607-07:002009-06-03T16:13:37.607-07:00prasun is right that it is highly uneconomical to ...prasun is right that it is highly uneconomical to fly awacs all the time whether its plateform is il76 or something else <br /><br />for countinous survillence there r aerostat radars <br /><br />these aerostat radar are tied to ground but they are high in the sky and thats why provide excellent low level detection ranges compared to radar on ground <br /><br />and yes its much more economical than flying awacs all the time <br /><br />and an aerostat radar can also be placed near paki border and it will give excellent coverage well inside paki borderAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-679168910025561582009-06-03T10:49:17.164-07:002009-06-03T10:49:17.164-07:00To Anon@4:27PM: There are no such plans to have an...To Anon@4:27PM: There are no such plans to have an extended-range LR-SAM.<br /><br />To Anon@9:29PM: Yes, the to-be-upgraded Jaguar IS interdictors will have airborne radars. But since the Jaguar is not meant to be a multi-role combat aircraft, and instead remain a dedicated tactical interdictor, the to-be-selected radar will have to be compact, be capable of ground moving target acquisition-cum-tracking in all weather conditions (i.e. in the synthetic aperture radar mode), and should also be capable of undertaking directional jamming for self-defence. In addition, operational data links will be installed in order to communicate with the PHALCONs. Although HAL did display an upgraded Jaguar's cockpit equipped with the DARIN-3 suite at Aero India 2009, this is still not the definitive design and I'm told the final glass cockpit will closely resemble that of the Tejas LCA Mk2. The new RLG-INS navigation system will probably be the same as that on the Su-30MKI (the Sigma-95). The nose-mounted laser rangefinder will not be reqd anymore as the Litening-3 LDP will be carried. <br />The MiG-27M upgrade package is much more modest as the airframe's upgrade potential has peaked, and the IAF is not in favour of re-engining it with the AL-31F turbofan, which was earlier jointly proposed by HAL and Russia's United Aircraft Corp. <br /><br />To Faris: RMAF HQ had decided last February decided against upgrading its MiG-29Ns and instead wants to acquire another six Su-30MKMs to have a full-strength No.11 Sqn. The last six Su-30MKMs are now being uploaded with new operational mission software related to the THALES-built Damocles LDP in Russia. It was earlier planned to do this work AFTER taking delivery of the aircraft, but RMAF HQ last year changed its mind and wanted to have this software upgrade work done in Russia itself, so that once they're delivered they won't have to be grounded subsequently and as a result of this, these six aircraft will be available for tactical flying training. The existing 12 Su-30MKMs already delivered are now being grounded <br />in a staggered manner so that their software upgrading can be done. In conclusion, the JDW report was speculative, as there are no fundamental software integration problems. In the meantime, negotiations continue with Russia for acquiring the Vympel R-77 BVRAAMs. <br /><br />To Anon@8:31AM: The PL-12 BVRAAM's range is 64km.<br /><br />To Anon@4:17AM: For airspace surveillance and military air traffic management over both flat terrain and mountainous terrain for extended durations on a non-stop basis, it will be highly uneconomical and operationally unviable to use any kind of AEW & C platform. This work can instead be done much more cheaper and efficiently by aerostat-mounted AESA radars of the type already acquired by the IAF and being acquired by the Navy. The PHALCON is best used as an early warning and airborne battle management platform ONLY when the IAF will be engaging in offensive air campaigns, during which superior situational awareness will be a must. And as I said earlier, even with aerial refuelling, the PHALCON will not be able to stay airborne for more than 12 hours due to human factor limitations.Prasun K Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00369323150694008798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-79055833611305293252009-06-03T09:16:05.000-07:002009-06-03T09:16:05.000-07:00Sure IL76 is big, that is why Wedgetail's life...Sure IL76 is big, that is why Wedgetail's life cycle cost would be much less even though initial acquisition cost of all three systems is comparable. <br />An AWAC or MPA sitting at the base is no good. Threats don't go away at peacetime. Once you have raised the shield you cant afford to bring it down. 24/7 surveillance is done to check surprise attack and air-space violations that may go unnoticed at peace time. Aerostats can also be used but because of their limited range you cant have enough of them to cover the entire frontier.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-30936893870792575092009-06-03T08:57:38.857-07:002009-06-03T08:57:38.857-07:00there is no country which uses awacs 24/7,only ex...there is no country which uses awacs 24/7,only except war time or war like situationAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-26421066746831411902009-06-03T08:56:33.874-07:002009-06-03T08:56:33.874-07:00The fuel comparison is meant to compare the life c...The fuel comparison is meant to compare the life cycle cost of IL76 Phalcon against Boeing 737 Wedgetail and G550 CAEW.<br />What is the point of having the IL76 Phalcon if we cant afford to fly it?<br />----------------------------<br />il76 is a bigger compared to 737 anf g550 <br /><br />and for your info this aircraft has better/reliable engines than older d30 /if we can afford those il76 for last 2 decades than we can also afford this aircraft very wellAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-47671225502080328342009-06-03T08:42:04.164-07:002009-06-03T08:42:04.164-07:00AWACS are meant to be used 24/7. Can you ever swit...AWACS are meant to be used 24/7. Can you ever switch off the radars at the borders? The fuel comparison is meant to compare the life cycle cost of IL76 Phalcon against Boeing 737 Wedgetail and G550 CAEW.<br />What is the point of having the IL76 Phalcon if we cant afford to fly it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-88557821548259993782009-06-03T07:54:26.845-07:002009-06-03T07:54:26.845-07:00But in this case the IL76 will be extremely expens...But in this case the IL76 will be extremely expensive to operate.<br />A rough calculation shows that over a 30 year period an IL-76 will need approx $1.2 billion worth of fuel against $400 million for the smaller Boeing 737 and $200 million for G550<br />---------------------------------------------<br />there will be no need for countinous survillence only except in war time and no country uses their awacs 24/7<br /><br />and your comparision about fuel is totally wrong over next 30 years fuel prices likely to change <br /><br />and comparing fuel consumption of 737 or g550 is mere foolish ,these aircraft have only two engines and thrust od single ps90a engie is more than thrust in engine used in 737,g550 so definitely A50 uses more fuel because of 4 engines and each rngine gives more thrust compared to engine used in 737,g550Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-81631373438514128692009-06-03T04:17:23.273-07:002009-06-03T04:17:23.273-07:00Prasun, how effective are AWACs in mountainous reg...Prasun, how effective are AWACs in mountainous regions specially in the north east where average peak exceeds 20,000 feet. G550 CAEW high altitude capability may be better suited to look further behind the mountains.<br />Also, will the IL76 Phalcon be deployed on 24/7 surveillance? In that case they would be spending much of their life staying airborne like commercial airliners do. But in this case the IL76 will be extremely expensive to operate.<br />A rough calculation shows that over a 30 year period an IL-76 will need approx $1.2 billion worth of fuel against $400 million for the smaller Boeing 737 and $200 million for G550.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-43992855909994350532009-06-02T08:35:56.340-07:002009-06-02T08:35:56.340-07:00Prasun K Sengupta is it possbile for pakistn to in...Prasun K Sengupta is it possbile for pakistn to incease the range of babur to 1000km or 1500kms like Russian KH-55Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-16881919083918547132009-06-02T08:31:19.058-07:002009-06-02T08:31:19.058-07:00any idea about the rel range of PL-12/SD-10?chines...any idea about the rel range of PL-12/SD-10?chinese are saying that it has a range of 110kmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-47056049375910742302009-06-02T02:03:32.126-07:002009-06-02T02:03:32.126-07:00Prasun,
Contrary to earlier statements made by th...Prasun,<br /><br />Contrary to earlier statements made by the RMAF, the defence minister has confirmed that the Fulcrums will be retired. Something tells me this comes as no surprise to you?<br /><br />Also, it seems a report appeared in JDW that delivery of the final 6MKMs have been delayed due to integration problems with western stuff.Fhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09300307989222935609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-15110108557297217932009-06-01T21:29:10.436-07:002009-06-01T21:29:10.436-07:00Prasun , is it true that IAF jags will get radar a...Prasun , is it true that IAF jags will get radar as part of their upgrade ?<br /><br />Who are the contenders and what is part of the upgrade ?<br /><br />Can you do a blog piece on Jags and Mig-27 upgrade ?<br /><br />ThanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-65149021911361794922009-06-01T16:27:53.447-07:002009-06-01T16:27:53.447-07:00Mr. Sengupta is it true that the intention is to g...Mr. Sengupta is it true that the intention is to gradually improve the LRSAM range through a number of variants from 120km to 350km ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-9271037460399255752009-06-01T10:47:36.065-07:002009-06-01T10:47:36.065-07:00To Anon@3:44AM: Locally-built. Russia cannot and w...To Anon@3:44AM: Locally-built. Russia cannot and will not build them due to NPT. <br /><br />To Anon@4:34AM: Well, the Aussies have a peculiar way of complicating things, largely due to their institutionalised policy of insisting on 50% direct industrial offsets. As a result, wirk quality suffers as locally available human resources are insufficient. Thus, Australia first had the problems with the Collins-class SSKs, followed byb the Kaman SH-2G Super Seasprite, the Eurocopter Tigre, and now the Wedgetail. It must also be said that the RAAF is the launch customer for the B.737NG/MESA AEW & C system and will therefore be expected to become the guinea pig for Boeing and Northrop Grumman to sort out all the bugs from the first production batch. The Turks will of course benefit enormously as they will now be taking delivery of a system that has largely been debugged and will be relatively trouble-free. India too could possiblt face such a problem with the P-8I, but all such problems are surmountable. <br />But if I were to choose between the B.737NG/MESA and A310-300/Phalcon, I will choose the latter for obvious reasons.Prasun K Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00369323150694008798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-11793578792487532192009-06-01T04:34:52.922-07:002009-06-01T04:34:52.922-07:00Prasun, how is that Turkey's Boeing Wegtail AWAC i...Prasun, how is that Turkey's Boeing Wegtail AWAC is coming along well when Australia's is struggling?<br />Is there some difference between Turkey's and Aussis systems. Turkey is sure paying a lot less.<br />If the Wedgetail succeeds we should go for it. At least the small Boeing 737 having 1/3 fuel consumption of IL76 will have a much lower operating cost.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-17289310987911793942009-06-01T03:44:05.926-07:002009-06-01T03:44:05.926-07:00Indian Navy's planed two SSGNs will be locally pro...Indian Navy's planed two SSGNs will be locally produced or russiansAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-19948994623783724402009-06-01T03:43:09.005-07:002009-06-01T03:43:09.005-07:00i thought that they had one traning aircraft and t...i thought that they had one traning aircraft and they will get four saab-2000AEW&C along with one traning aircraft that will be later converted to full capability?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-42459703772003667992009-06-01T03:41:03.549-07:002009-06-01T03:41:03.549-07:00i mean 8 blade against current 4 blade proplersi mean 8 blade against current 4 blade proplersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-17070838502656730552009-06-01T03:40:31.965-07:002009-06-01T03:40:31.965-07:00is there any plan to use Proplers like C-130J on P...is there any plan to use Proplers like C-130J on P-3 by any country?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-29267642190357905572009-05-31T14:06:46.178-07:002009-05-31T14:06:46.178-07:00To Anon@12:18PM: The Babur cruise missile is prese...To Anon@12:18PM: The Babur cruise missile is presently deployed with the Pakistan Army only as a surface-to-surface cruise missile. The Pakistan Navy operates the shore-to-ship variant. The no of Saab 2000 AEW & C platforms being acquired by PAF is only 4. The KJ-200 has not yet been approved for export, but the aircraft is like a C-130J, therefore it will be able to cruise at higher altitudes and will carry more fuel than the Saab 2000. Although Saab claims that the Saab 2000's max endurance is 9.5 hours, in reality the endurance will not be more than 6 hours as it cannot be refuelled in mid-air and also because of human limitations, even when carrying two sets of mission management crew. <br /><br />To Anon@12:39PM: In the history of air warfare in the 20th century the only time AEW & C aircraft were destroyed was in early 1991 when the USAF destroyed on ground the Iraqi 'Adnan'. I very much doubt if long-range BVRAAMs will be used to destroy airborne AEW & C platforms, since AEW & C platforms will have adequate self-protection systems. The only viable way of neutralising hostile AEW & C platforms is by either destroying them on ground, or effectively making their host air bases inoperable through sustained counter-air base air campaigns. <br /><br />To Anon@12:23PM: Yes, the IMDEX Asia 2009 show report in which IAI showed the VL-Barak-8 naval MR-SAMm while RAFAEL showed the Barak-NG land-based LR-SAM for the first time. The Barak-NG is being proposed as a replacement for Singapore's existing MIM-23B I-Hawk MR-SAMs. The show report also details the Indian Navy's plans for acquiring two SSGNs.Prasun K Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00369323150694008798noreply@blogger.com