tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post5810675561854715030..comments2024-02-10T23:32:15.095-08:00Comments on TRISHUL: Bottoms-Up, Not Top-DownPrasun K Senguptahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00369323150694008798noreply@blogger.comBlogger65125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-40358273019721010872009-10-07T04:09:37.325-07:002009-10-07T04:09:37.325-07:00sorry prasun da but your link is not complete and ...sorry prasun da but your link is not complete and so its not not working can you again give me the link<br />thank youN3SD!Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11510280563412275816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-4430563730088801242009-10-06T10:44:10.241-07:002009-10-06T10:44:10.241-07:00To smith & hacker: To check out the following:...To smith & hacker: To check out the following:<br />http://www.frontlineonnet.com/stories/20091023262110900.htm<br /><br />http://www.frontlineonnet.com/stories/20091023262110800.htm<br /><br />http://www.frontlineonnet.com/stories/20091023262110600.htmPrasun K Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00369323150694008798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-11624969319587529502009-10-06T09:36:22.129-07:002009-10-06T09:36:22.129-07:00To sbm: To me the most objective analysis of the e...To sbm: To me the most objective analysis of the entire episode has come from Capt (Ret'd) B K Subba Rao, who has brilliantly exposed the organisational deficiencies prevailing within the AEC. Unless the AEC itself is held to account, I'm afraid no objective assessment of any AEC-initiated project will be possible.<br /><br />To Anon@7:27AM: As Santhanam himself has admitted, he did cry foul in May 1998 itself. But as Arundhati Ghose has said, if test-failures arose at that time, there was ample time between 1998 and 2001 to conduct additional tests. Why this was not done and why the then NDA govt declared an unilateral moratorium on further n-tests when there was no need to, remains a mystery. The then NSA to the NDA govt and other key decision-makers of the AEC must be held accountable for such strategic lapses. Like I said before, at the apex political-level, strategic visioning as a virtue is either totally lacking, or is frowned upon. <br /><br />To Anon@8:07AM: May be yes, maybe no. Only time will tell. But this I can say with confidence: Had the MoD approved the Indian Army's plan for acquiring the LCH in large numbers (more than 120) as far back as 2007, then by now the first two LCH prototypes would have been flying. But this has not happened and now HAL finds itself in a situation in which, unless it succeeds in reducing the LCH's weight as per the IAF's requirements, the MoD will not release the much-needed funds which HAL requires for setting in motion the LCH's production engineering/tooling processes. This is exactly how delays are incurred in delivery schedules. And yet the likes of A K Antony seem oblivious to such lapses and shortcomings!Prasun K Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00369323150694008798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-5362107575953334882009-10-06T08:07:08.915-07:002009-10-06T08:07:08.915-07:00i have a feeling the HAL LCH is gonna go the HTT35...i have a feeling the HAL LCH is gonna go the HTT35 way - coordinated memory loss.<br /><br />what do you think on this point mr. prasun sengupta?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-75487638835468929742009-10-06T07:27:05.755-07:002009-10-06T07:27:05.755-07:00Santhanam must have cried foul way back in 1998. A...Santhanam must have cried foul way back in 1998. At that time sanctions were still in place and so a new test wouldn't have made any change. At the same time the NDA govt. would have been under great pressure from the people to listen to Santhanam. If that had happened, we could have had a fully successful TN test at that time itself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-3040293258135338542009-10-06T04:04:07.351-07:002009-10-06T04:04:07.351-07:00Prasun. I saw the articles.
Santhanam is probably...Prasun. I saw the articles.<br /><br />Santhanam is probably correct but the tone of the debate reflects badly on all concerned.sbmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13090918961831389673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-44420270342653200542009-10-06T03:38:10.676-07:002009-10-06T03:38:10.676-07:00thanks prasun da and smith
IS the Rheinmetall 120-...thanks prasun da and smith<br />IS the Rheinmetall 120-millimeter (4.7 in) gun smoothbore tank gun used on the German Leopard 2 considered for the arjun mk2 when is the scheduled time for the arjun mk2 prototype to roll out or is it delayed is there any vocal commitment for the numbers of arjun mk2 to be inductedN3SD!Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11510280563412275816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-36992540973865310042009-10-06T02:01:15.456-07:002009-10-06T02:01:15.456-07:00To sbm: Do check out the following:
http://www.out...To sbm: Do check out the following:<br />http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?262027<br /><br />http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?262028<br /><br />http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?262105Prasun K Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00369323150694008798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-57838985125247768972009-10-05T23:18:36.846-07:002009-10-05T23:18:36.846-07:00To Anon@5:53PM: What the USAF has in service is th...To Anon@5:53PM: What the USAF has in service is the F1-6C/D Block 50/52, and not the Block 60 F-16E/F (of the UAE Air Force) that is being offered to the IAF. On top of that, the F-16IN Super Viper will be a notch above what the UAE Air Force has now got, in terms of network-centric warfare technologies and on-board systems. That is what the attracted the attention of the IAF. In addition, the F-16IN remains the lowest-cost option till today. As for the Tejas Mk2 M-MRCA, IF the Govt of India removes all financial constraints and gives a free hand to HAL to take critical decisions aimed at overcoming the production engineering curve, I have no doubt that within the next three years, the Tejas Mk2 will be ready for flight qualification trials, and will be as good, if not better, than the Gripen IN or F-16IN.Prasun K Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00369323150694008798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-73941426988065394002009-10-05T23:08:41.425-07:002009-10-05T23:08:41.425-07:00To Anon@5:27PM: Many thanks. Talking of half-infor...To Anon@5:27PM: Many thanks. Talking of half-information in other blogs, I came across one yesterday at: http://ajaishukla.blogspot.com/2009/10/strategic-producer-midhani-on-high.html<br />In that story, a claim has been made that organisations like the Defence Materials Research Laboratory (DMRL) and Mishra Dhatu Nigam (MIDHANI) figure prominently in the “Entity Lists”, which have legally blocked supplies of materials, know-how and equipment to these two organisations. What the story does not spell out is when exactly these technology-denial regimes came into force, and what were the strategic alternatives available before such regimes came into force. Let me explain further: it was way back in early 1986 that France approached India and officially offered its proposal to team up with Indian R & D organisations to co-develop the Tejas LCA and all its associated sub-systems like the turbofan and missions avionics suite. This breathtaking offer was more or less identical to the offer that was made by France to the then Yugoslavia for co-developing the single-engined Novi Avion, which externally bore a close resemblance to the Rafale. By 1986 itself, it was known by GTRE that the greatest R & D challenges would be in the areas of engine hot-section and single-crystal turbine blades. Logically, it should have been clear then itself that holding the hand of SNECMA Moteurs would not be a bad idea afterall (since Dassault Aviation had already been roped in by late 1984 as the sole independent consultant for helping ADA prepare for the Tejas LCA's project definition phase). Yet, the French offer in its entirety was not taken up for mysterious (maybe egoistic) reasons. Consequently, when it was realised by 1992 that the GTX-35 Kaveri turbofan was overweight, GTRE had no option but to engage SNECMA Moteurs as the consultant for preparing a weight-budgeted variant of the Kaveri. And by 1993 the MTCR and other technology denial regimes had enrered into force, thereby preventing France and others from engaging in fundamental R & D activities with their Indian counterparts. What I'm trying to say here is that between 1984 and 1992 there were ample opportunities for organisations like the GTRE, DMRL and MIDHANI to strike mutually beneficial R & D/industrial production alliances with French aerospace industrial entities, but for reasons unknown, such opportunities were ignored or turned down. Consequently, what is happening today is in all critical R & D areas related to the Kaveri, all that the GTRE, DMRL and MIDHANI can say is: "work in progress". Of course, all these entities are under the mistaken impression that few would bother to walk down memory lane to dig out such missed opportunities! Well, they, including BROADSWORD, are sadly mistaken.Prasun K Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00369323150694008798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-45542454332281735982009-10-05T22:49:59.924-07:002009-10-05T22:49:59.924-07:00To Anon@2:33AM: There's no need for any catapu...To Anon@2:33AM: There's no need for any catapult as the ski-ramp is there on INS Vikramaditya (and on the IAC) to provide enough lift for a fully-loaded MiG-29K to take off. Typically, about 14 MiG-29Ks (eight in the internal hangar bay) and six on the flight deck, plus three Ka-28PL/Ka-31s in the hangar bay and four Ka-28PL/Ka-31s on the flight deck can be accommodated.<br /><br />To hacker: All these topics were covered long ago at: http://trishulgroup.blogspot.com/2009/01/indias-born-again-t-90m-mbt.html<br /><br />http://trishulgroup.blogspot.com/2009/08/bel-made-hardware-for-upgrading-mbts.html<br /><br />http://trishulgroup.blogspot.com/2009/08/whats-wrong-with-t-90s-mbts-fire.html<br /><br />http://trishulgroup.blogspot.com/2009/08/t-90s-mbts-combat-effectiveness.html<br /><br />To Anon@6:31AM: The term 'training aircraft' is too generic to describe the Tejas Mk1. The trainer aircraft you've described is applicable to the HJT-36 IJT and Hawk Mk132. The term LIFT is altogether a different product with vastly improved capabilities, such as that found on the USAF's T-38 LIFT. Therefore, the Tejas Mk1 will be the perfect LIFT to meet the IAF's future operational reqmts. <br /><br />To Smith@4:44PM: Presently, in terms of air base infrastructure development the PLAAF within the Tibet Autonomous Region lags behind India. The same also applies to the prevailing balance of power in eastern Ladakh. Therefore, just as in 1962, the IAF holds the key to achieving battlefield superiority and dissuasive deterrence against the PLA along the northern front. The only area where the IAF is inferior is along India's northeastern front along Myanmar, as the PLAAF can rapidly achieve overwhelming air superiority out of Kunming and is also capable of acquiring airspace transit rights from Myanmar. Therefore, beefing up of the IAF's air base infrastructure throughout the northeast is a must and ought to get top priority.Prasun K Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00369323150694008798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-12833180742860949022009-10-05T17:53:39.893-07:002009-10-05T17:53:39.893-07:00Prasun da,
To my query you have said that the low...Prasun da,<br /><br />To my query you have said that the lowest bid will definitely have a definite edge.In that case only the US made F-16 Super Viper & F/A-18E/F Super Hornet have the real chance of winning the bid.Mig-35 though cost even more less but it,s main disadvantage is that it is not a proven aircraft and is still in the prototype stage.<br /><br />What do you think will the IAF go for? On one hand is the the proven F-16 but the IAF was not impressed with the F-16 in the exercises it had held with the USAF in the past while on the other hand is the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet which has impressed the the IAF pilots but might cost about 10-15 million $ more.<br /><br />Going by the conditions put forwarded by the IAF officials in the m-mrca contract what can the total cost of both the F-16 Super Viper & F/A-18E/F Super Hornet.<br /><br />Can the the Tejas Mk2 become a top-notch 4.5 generation fighter and beat even the SAAB Gripen JAS-39NG and the F-16E/F Block60 fighters?Will ADA be able to make it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-42821992701567758252009-10-05T17:27:31.747-07:002009-10-05T17:27:31.747-07:00Prasun da,
Thanks yet again for clearing my doubt...Prasun da,<br /><br />Thanks yet again for clearing my doubts.<br />The news in other blogs or editorials either gives half information or mal-information.So we as readers get confused to what is true or false.So i go to you to clear my doubts.That's why i believe it is the NO.1 defense blog.Keep the good work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-88236805228876572172009-10-05T16:44:19.429-07:002009-10-05T16:44:19.429-07:00Hi Prasun,
I had a small query that can PLAF coun...Hi Prasun,<br /><br />I had a small query that can PLAF counter India’s modern airforce with its sheer number the ideology that has drive the communist nation (USSR), the same which had been still followed by modern china. China has a less modern or say reliable or capable inventory as compared to India but not an absolute one these are still one which can do the job.<br /><br />What are your views on the future context between two giants? Would it be possible for Indian to counter China just only with modern weapons?smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14042341418738844366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-6766597645037691252009-10-05T15:32:10.115-07:002009-10-05T15:32:10.115-07:00To hacker@2:42:00 AM
For Arjun Mk2 1,500hp engine...To hacker@2:42:00 AM<br /><br />For Arjun Mk2 1,500hp engine is being under development by DRDO. Also CVRDE, Avadi, has taken up Development of Defensive Aids System for Armoured Fighting Vehicles (AFVs) like Advanced Laser Warning and Countermeasure System (ALWCS) and Mobile Camouflage System (MCS). CVRDE also has decided to tie up with France's Nexter Systems to redesign the Arjun Mk1's turret and equip the Arjun Mk2 with an autoloader similar to that developed for the Leclerc MBT and Arjun Mk2 will also have well-proven concept of modular add-on NERA armour blocks on the turret and sides. Also Bharat Earth Movers Ltd. (BEML) had rolled out Bogie Flat Arjun Tank (BFAT) wagons of military rail ordered by the Army.<br /><br />Arjun Tank Engine development<br />http://www.drdo.org/tender/desidoc/desidoc29mar07sp2.pdf<br />Defensive Aids System for Arjun Mk 2<br />http://www.drdo.com/pub/nl/2009/March-09.pdf<br />Barracuda Camouflage<br />http://frontierindia.net/saabs-approach-armour-in-indian-desert<br />Bogie Flat Arjun Tank (BFAT) wagons<br />http://www.hindu.com/2006/05/28/stories/2006052805401000.htm<br /><br />This is what I discover against my previous queries with Prasun da and some google work done by me.<br /><br />Also I request to parsun da to post if he has any other update on Arjun mk2.smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14042341418738844366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-5313045303210951032009-10-05T13:05:26.050-07:002009-10-05T13:05:26.050-07:00for bharat raksak they have a thread for people wi...for bharat raksak they have a thread for people with no email other than free ones. it's called recent members or something.<br /><br />it explains what to do. someone I know registered with free email using that.for bhartrakshaknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-46377346048746062602009-10-05T10:07:40.505-07:002009-10-05T10:07:40.505-07:00i wonder why pakistan is inducting jf-17 pos.there...i wonder why pakistan is inducting jf-17 pos.there is no upgrade news nothing it seems useless figther while we r always upgradinding lca.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-27195473366022801432009-10-05T08:16:24.082-07:002009-10-05T08:16:24.082-07:00@ anon Monday, October 05, 2009 2:46:00 AM
For Bh...@ anon Monday, October 05, 2009 2:46:00 AM<br /><br />For Bharat-rakshak forums..you need an ISP mail id.Like Asianet Airtel BSNL etc.Not gmail,yahoo id.This is to acertain your authenticity..& 2 keep good-mannered pakis out..;-)<br />Last time I checked..bharat-rakshak wont accept webmail id from free webmail services like gmail,yahoo etc..Dont know if its still is the case..You can call your ISP support for your mail id.<br />Most ppl dont usually care for ISP mail services since they have limited diskspace..Kannan,Indianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-55261207558115392942009-10-05T06:31:38.314-07:002009-10-05T06:31:38.314-07:00I think using the Tejas Mk1 as a training aircraft...I think using the Tejas Mk1 as a training aircraft is ill advised. First, the Tejas is an overkill for a trainer. It has been built for combat and using it for training will be very costly. A trainer aircraft must be very forgiving and tolerate mistakes made by the pilot. But the Tejas is a fighter built to be handled by experienced pilots.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-12383076330052634772009-10-05T03:28:31.081-07:002009-10-05T03:28:31.081-07:00Are you serious or just pulling Prasun's leg?J...Are you serious or just pulling Prasun's leg?Just go to www.gmail.com, create an email account and that is the ID you can use to log into any blogs...Avi Berentznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-18992367778780923462009-10-05T02:46:30.138-07:002009-10-05T02:46:30.138-07:00hello prasun you have a great blog
can you help me...hello prasun you have a great blog<br />can you help me <br />i don't have a email id <br />i want to join the bharat-rakshak forum <br />so can you tell me a website from where i can get a email id so can i can join the bharat-rakshak forum<br />thank youAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-26647198122891894822009-10-05T02:42:10.065-07:002009-10-05T02:42:10.065-07:00you r correct prasun da
can you tell me what is th...you r correct prasun da<br />can you tell me what is the changes between the T-90S and T-90M of india with the T-90M of russia.<br />what are the upgrades of the COMBAT IMPROVED AJEYA(T-72MK1).<br />and<br />what are the improvements of ARJUN MK2.N3SD!Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11510280563412275816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-11152096117204527352009-10-05T02:33:03.026-07:002009-10-05T02:33:03.026-07:00Hello Prasun,
Is it true that the MiG-29K will hav...Hello Prasun,<br />Is it true that the MiG-29K will have a limited weapons & fuel load for it to be able to take off from the deck of INS Vikramaditya? I've read some articles suggesting that a fully loaded MiG-29K simply cannot take off in such a short distance without catapult.<br /><br />Finally, how many MiGs & choppers can the Vik carry in wartime configuration?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-79730429661661317052009-10-04T23:47:24.941-07:002009-10-04T23:47:24.941-07:00To Anon@3:10PM: In my view, the tandem-seat Tejas ...To Anon@3:10PM: In my view, the tandem-seat Tejas Mk1 easily qualifies for being employed as a LIFT. All that is required is to install a mini-AESA radar like the Vixen 500e on board. That way, the aircraft can be employed for both LIFT as well as for defensive counter-air operations. But I'm given to understand that the IAF first wants to acquire additional AJTs, and not LIFTs. <br /><br />To Anon@7:51PM: That's right. For the 4 Project 15B DDGs,the construction of the modules will be done SEQUENTIALLY just like in the Project 15A DDGs,while in the three Project 15C DDGs and the seven Project 17A FFGs the construction of the modules will be done CONCURRENTLY at different locations.Which means only the Project 15C DDGs and the Project 17A FFGs will use the new method of modular construction.<br />Regarding the Lockheed Martin-NLCA issue, all that Lockheed Martin is doing is following US State dept regulations, nothing more or nothing less. No one from the US govt is deliberately stalling India-US high-tech collaboration. In fact, the US has repeatedly said that the days of the Cold War era are long over and the US now counts India as its natural strategic ally. What more does anyone want the US to state? <br /> Anyone who visits the various JV businesses (all R & D-based) already up and running in India will realise this. <br />Before I answer your other queries, perhaps you may clarify the following:<br />1) What is your definition of full ToT for the aircraft?<br />2) Who said that the US or others are not willing to share the AESA radar source codes? <br />3) Who has so far confirmed that Snecma Moteurs is collaborating with GTRE to build the Kaveri? Where did this come from? The offer to co-develop the Kaveri was made by France way back in the early 1980s, but that offer was never entertained by anyone in India.<br />4) Which French govt/industrial official has ever stated that the Kaveri will be powering the Rafale?<br />Cost is indeed a very critical factor as it is now a known fact that the Tejas Mk2 will afterall be a M-MRCA, therefore the MoD till this day continues to state that only 126 M-MRCAs are being imported. Since this is a sto-gap procurement from abroad, the lowest bid will definitely have a definite edge. Had India decided to go for a M-MRCA that is currently fourth-generation but has the potential to be upgraded with fifth-generation avionics, weapons and mission sensors, then for sure the Rafale would have been the optimum choice. But since only 126 M-MRCAs are being imported and with funding already committed for co-developing the FGFA with Russia, I'm afraid the Rafale's chances in India look slim. <br /><br />To Anon@8:16PM: That has already been going on since 2002. The L-3 MAPPS facility in Bangalore has been doing just this.Prasun K Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00369323150694008798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-92080985986630630152009-10-04T20:16:41.221-07:002009-10-04T20:16:41.221-07:00Prasun,
Is it possible for Indian citizens to st...Prasun, <br /><br />Is it possible for Indian citizens to start a RnD companies in India for military technologies and sell their tech to companies outside India ? MOD won't be interested in anything developed in India.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com