tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post1880824270398853441..comments2024-02-10T23:32:15.095-08:00Comments on TRISHUL: The Truth About Krasnopol-M Firing Trials In IndiaPrasun K Senguptahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00369323150694008798noreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-2052043100241718482009-07-24T10:36:53.293-07:002009-07-24T10:36:53.293-07:00Prasun,
As per the schedule, Flight evaluation of...Prasun,<br /><br />As per the schedule, Flight evaluation of the fighters must have stated in the month of June 2009.Indian Air force has submitted the Technical Evaluation report of the six aircraft to the MOD long back. Defence Bureaucrats are unnecessary delaying the MMRCA Project.<br />Now, I smell Fishy about the project.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02818746787807501516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-36692939266082103452009-07-24T06:28:06.601-07:002009-07-24T06:28:06.601-07:00to anon @ 3:28am
thanks a lot man for the tip.to anon @ 3:28am<br />thanks a lot man for the tip.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-78639585516404655382009-07-24T03:28:46.982-07:002009-07-24T03:28:46.982-07:00For my HTML illiterate friends here is how you pos...For my HTML illiterate friends here is how you post a link-<br /><br /><a href="http://put your link here"> XYZ </a><br /><br />This would appear as <a href="#" rel="nofollow"> XYZ </a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-8559008838097608952009-07-24T02:26:42.933-07:002009-07-24T02:26:42.933-07:00“We’re taking Eurofighters flown by the German Air...“We’re taking Eurofighters flown by the German Air Force for the trials. And the idea is to conduct weapon trials in the United Kingdom using their aircraft. This will give the Indian Air Force a chance to interact with two other forces using the Eurofighter,” said Bernhard Gerwert, CEO of EADS Military Air Systems. He was talking to Express on the sidelines of the Royal Air Tattoo, an air show involving NATO air forces at Fairford, London.<br /><br />“We see India as a partner rather than just as another prospective market. We want your country to play a role in future EADS programmes.<br /><br />We’re open to the possibility of India becoming a manufacturing hub for our future exports,’’ Gerwert said.<br /><br />As a first step EADS will launch its aviation research centre in Bangalore.<br /><br />“We have already entered into a memorandum of understanding (MoU) with L&T. EADS will recruit 200 engineers in the next two years who will work on avionics and sensors,’’ he said adding that the manufacture of certain critical components could be totally offset to India.<br /><br />“These parts will come directly to our assembly line like other components reaching us from partner countries UK, Spain or Italy. This will also give India a chance to showcase its technological prowess in handling complex technology,’’ he pointed out.<br /><br />EADS has also decided to support India’s effort to fly an indigenous Light Combat Aircraft.<br /><br />The LCA team recently visited Munich and held discussions with EADS to identify possible grounds where the two firms could meet to support the LCA programme. India’s LCA is facing cost and time overruns following a host of technical and technological issues.<br /><br />According to Gerwert, EADS will help in LCA flight evaluation and tests. <b>We are ready to provide engine technology which no other country will be ready to. The benefits we plan to give India are unparalleled, he said.</b><br /><br />But according to IAF sources, Eurofighter is facing a tough flight plan as it costs more than its competitors.<br /><br />“There are several positives like a modern airframe, avionics etc. We need to wait for the field trials to be over before any conclusion can be drawn,’’<br /><br />http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=EADS+looks+for+an+edge&artid=dekFxU7OQKM=&SectionID=oHSKVfNWYm0=&MainSectionID=oHSKVfNWYm0=&SectionName=VfE7I/Vl8os=&SEO=Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-220006042937841342009-07-24T01:28:24.600-07:002009-07-24T01:28:24.600-07:00prasun
Somehow i get a feeling tht the trials of ...prasun<br /><br />Somehow i get a feeling tht the trials of Tiffy and SHornet by ETP personel of the IAF will hav a big say in selection of the engine and thus will determine the path Tejas Mk.2 takes.Wht r ur thoughts?<br /><br />The MMRCA contest is really heating up with Dassault announcing their intension to bring 2 birds with AESA on-board(i think these probably will be same ones which took part in swiss competition). Tht brings the total of 3 contenders (F-16,F-18E/F & rafale) bringing working AESA's to the field trials & i guess these may well turn out to be the shortlisted entries.wht do u think?sachin_sathehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02104023701292128933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-36662914001798499952009-07-23T12:51:52.798-07:002009-07-23T12:51:52.798-07:00To Prasun Sir & Friends:
Dassault will send t...To Prasun Sir & Friends:<br /><br /><b>Dassault will send two Rafales equipped with the new generation active electronically scanned array (AESA) radars for flight trials to India in September, the (french) head of military aircraft, Eric Trappier said.</b><br /><br />"India is a marathon, not a sprint," he said, referring to India's international tender for 126 medium range multi-role combat aircraft.<br /><br />http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4201981&c=AIR&s=TOPAadityanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-7784901364222183522009-07-23T12:32:21.222-07:002009-07-23T12:32:21.222-07:00To Subroto: The teams of IAF ETPs will depart Indi...To Subroto: The teams of IAF ETPs will depart India to their overseas destinations only next month.Prasun K Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00369323150694008798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-32400586178403127842009-07-23T11:49:19.342-07:002009-07-23T11:49:19.342-07:00Hi Prasun,
What is the status of the Indian MMRCA...Hi Prasun,<br /><br />What is the status of the Indian MMRCA Project? Is the flight evaluation of the fighter jets started? If not then why there is delay....Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02818746787807501516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-7663943258634924052009-07-23T10:34:17.251-07:002009-07-23T10:34:17.251-07:00To Sachin Sathe: Once the airframe domensions are ...To Sachin Sathe: Once the airframe domensions are altered, the entire game changes, right from the total redesign of the internal electrical wiring harnesses to the repositioning of avionics LRUs within the avionics bulkheads, to the redesign of the environmental control system, and finally, to the complex task of re-writing the applications software for both the FBW-FCS and the navigation-and-attack system. In short, virtually re-starting the aircraft's R & D effort from scratch. Therefore, let us not oversimplify the R & D challenges lying ahead, all of which will be reluctantly admitted and revealed by ADA in the months to come AFTER the revised ASQRs are released by IAF HQ AFTER the higher-thrust turbofan's selection is announced.<br /><br />To Raghav: It was indeed systems failure that was the 'principal probable' reason for the tragic Su-30MKI crash. The catastrophic and total failure of the quadruplex FBW-FCS was the prime reason. You may have noticed several ill-informed and speculative discourses being conducted in certain India-specific internet chat forums till this day and they all ask how come a redundant (4-channel) FBW-FCS can suffer catastrophic failure. What these ill-informed folks can't figure out is that even for such systems, NOT ALL LRUs of the FBW-FCS have quadruple redundancy. For example, there is ONLY ONE 1MTC manual control signal generator, ONLY ONE SVS-2C-U-30MKI air data computer, ONLY 1 SBKV-2V-1 attitude heading & reference system (AHRS), ONLY 1 BRP-3 flight data transfer unit, and ONLY 1 BSPI-6 analogue-digital-analogue converter. All these LRUs are integral parts of the FBW-FCS and the failure of any one of them will paralyse the entire FBW-FCS. But of course, these ill-informed entities speculating in the dark don't have access to the Su-30MKI's technical manuals (which I do) and therefore tend to hit the wall everytime they speculate without any basis. Forensic efforts are now underway to isolate the fault to a specific LRU (out of the ones I've mentioned above) and only then will it be possible to conclude whether the faulure was due to faulty installation, or maintenance neglect, or a production QC-related problem. All the LRUs I've mentioned above are of Russian origin and are imported off-the-shelf. <br /><br />To Anon@9:16AM: Are yaar, that remark by Ajai was made in jest. If you take it seriously it can only mean that since the PM's wife is not a servant of the GoI (and therefore not sworn to secrecy under the OSA), she too, like any other well-meaning and patriotic Indian citizen, WILL NOT be allowed even a glimpse of the full-scale ATV and will instead have to make do with a vaguely-fabricated or generic scale-model of the ATV! So, take your pick on what you 'want' to believe.Prasun K Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00369323150694008798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-62616351293436956192009-07-23T09:16:56.058-07:002009-07-23T09:16:56.058-07:00Col Ajai has just dropped a bombshell.
"there...Col Ajai has just dropped a <a href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8726844009873922462&postID=8082178527373923162&page=1" rel="nofollow">bombshell</a>.<br />"there's no such thing as an ATV. There is, therefore, no launch. Mrs Manmohan Singh will be breaking a coconut over an imaginary nuclear submarine"<br /><br />Prasun ji, comments please.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-59139861668651691192009-07-23T05:43:48.355-07:002009-07-23T05:43:48.355-07:00Prasun,
what is the status of FINSAS and Arjun ...Prasun, <br /><br />what is the status of FINSAS and Arjun MK-II ???<br /><br />thanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-18326706199506291622009-07-23T03:53:39.037-07:002009-07-23T03:53:39.037-07:00http://epaper.indianexpress.com/IE/IEH/2009/07/23/...http://epaper.indianexpress.com/IE/IEH/2009/07/23/ArticleHtmls/23_07_2009_008_002.shtml?Mode=1<br /><br />In this news report you have been proven right about the fundamental cause of the crash. But here it states that the crash was due to system failure and not due to any human error. why?Raghavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16999496807312733336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-73707317888186957082009-07-22T23:44:36.293-07:002009-07-22T23:44:36.293-07:00prasun,
The DRDO is practically a slave of the Go...prasun,<br /><br />The DRDO is practically a slave of the Govt. and is dependent on the armed forces to get exact info and their need & this is exactly where it gets screwed royally. The BMP-2 based 81mm omrtar may be diff one but it can serve as a tech base if & only if the ARMY itself is clear abt wht it wants and is committed to invest money,time & its intelluctal inputs in it. Yes the DRDO is equally guilty of not being proactive enough but the HARD fact is tht the DRDO does what it is told to do not wht it needs to do.<br /><br />Also regarding the 7.62mm variant the OFB is responsible for the deigns as it was the one responsible for further developement of INSAS & it has done nothing but to kiss ar$e of foreign<br />arms manufacturers.They r unable to develope even a commando version of INSAS. Its top-brass needs to be hanged literally.<br /><br />Did u read the article on RTA-70 on Shiv's blog?If it doses achieve the targets it has set for itself it can even replace AN-32 wht r ur thoughts?<br /><br /><br />As far as the Tejas Mk2 concerned i think a lot of subsystems u mentioned can be developed from the current ones for Su-30 MKI and jaguar.The EW systems are already at a very advanced stage of testing(refering to RWJ developement as relesed in AI-09). Also,the AESA developement is already underway as u know.<br /><br /> Regarding weapons integration the software integration can be ported from Mk.1 varient.I think the biggest challange is going to be the airframe-modification. Also the pod-mounted designation system will probably be an israeli one.As far as the engine goes it depends upon the govt. on wht they want.<br /><br />Can u explain more abt this 55-calibre variant of 120 mm cann intended for Arjun mk2?<br /><br />Also post if possible for the NGAR(next gen assault rifle) GSQR released by the ARMY.sachin_sathehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02104023701292128933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-16571479243405553762009-07-22T13:40:43.852-07:002009-07-22T13:40:43.852-07:00To Sachin Sathe: The BMP-2 ICV carrying the 81mm m...To Sachin Sathe: The BMP-2 ICV carrying the 81mm mortar is totally different from the breech-loading 81mm and 120mm mortar systems. As for the Abhay ICV it is unlikely to enter production in the near future anf to date it remains only a technology demonstration project. Regarding the small-arms scenario, it was well within the DRDO's means to develop the reqd carbines be it 5.56mm or 9mm. Failure to develop them as well a decent GPMG derived from the INSAS or even a new-design 7.62mm GPMG is nothing short of criminal negligence. <br /><br />To Anon@3:48PM: Your comment leads me to presume that you can't tell the difference between a direct-fire cannon and an indirect fire-support field artillery howitzer. <br /><br />To Khambat Dagha: Irregardless of whether it is the Tejas Mk1's PV-5 or LSP-3, it just make any sense to waste any more money on these prototypes as the definitive variant of the LCA which will be inducted in large numbers will be the Tejas Mk2. And since it is this variant that will have the higher thrust powerplant (as you well know), consequently, the only realistic and feasible approach to take is to gear up for fabricating the three required PVs for the Tejas LCA Mk2's flight-test/weapons qualification regimes, which will get underway by 2011 ONLY if ADA and HAL can deliver the following:<br />1) Complete the detailed design of the Tejas LCA Mk2, which will have a bigger fuselage, larger wings and an enlarged avionics bulkhead.<br />2) Qualify the chosen turbofan for all flight regimes.<br />3) Develop and integrate a new navigation-and-attack system that will include a newer-design ring laser gyro-based inertial navigation system, AESA multi-mode radar, IRST sensor, helmet-mounted display, tactical data link, and pod-mounted target acquisition/target designation system.<br />4) Install larger AMLCDs in the cockpit (instead of the existing MFD-55s) of the types seen on board the JF-17 Thunder and JAS-39 Gripen, and a retractable in-flight refuelling probe of the type being offered on the JAS-39 Gripen IN.<br />5) Develop and install an integrated defensive aids suite of the kind now being developed for the to-be-upgraded Jaguar IS and Su-30MKI.<br />6) Undertake weaponisation to flight-qualify both air-to-air and air-to-ground PGMs.<br />Now, given the R & D challenges outlined above, and the impending release of new ASQRs by IAF HQ for such a radically redesigned Tejas LCA Mk2, it will be at least another five years before the definitive Tejas LCA Mk2 enters service. <br />Regarding the Arjun MBT, I recently heard that some initial work has begun on developing a 55-calibre variant of the existing 120mm rifled-bore cannon. If developed, it will go on the proposed Arjun Mk2 variant. <br /><br />"The tender stipulates transferring at least 60% of the engine technology to HAL to produce the engines locally, said Hubertus von Schoenfeldt, spokesman for Euro jet in India."<br />---------------------------------<br /><br />You can rest assured that even if the content of locally-produced components/sub-systems of the chosen turbofan reaches 80%, the most critical parts of the turbofan--the engine core and the HP/LP turbine blades--will have to be imported off-the-shelf as no one in the world will transfer their design/manufacturing know-hows.Prasun K Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00369323150694008798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-90441805147132809272009-07-22T10:28:56.767-07:002009-07-22T10:28:56.767-07:00Prasun da,
The RFP for 100-150 engines for the LC...Prasun da,<br /><br />The RFP for 100-150 engines for the LCA Tejas Mk2 has been and in another six months all the proceedings (for the new engine)deal is expected to be completed according to P.S. Subramanyam, director at ADA.Does that mean that MMRCA acquisition has little or no the type of engine selected.<br /> <br />The tender stipulates transferring at least 60% of the engine technology to HAL to produce the engines locally, said Hubertus von Schoenfeldt, spokesman for Euro jet in India.And Euro jet is willing to give more than 60% of the technology...if they become partners.Does that mean Euro jet has more chance winnng the bid as they are also offering an engine with TVC especially for the Naval Tejas and more ever their engine will require less modifications on the aircraft.<br /><br />If the deal is signed by early next year then when the LCA Tejas Mk2 is expected to fly if EJ200 is selected?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-4362879162571032522009-07-22T06:49:50.849-07:002009-07-22T06:49:50.849-07:00where does LCA against this j10
http://upload.wi...where does LCA against this j10<br /><br /><br />http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Vigorous_Dragon.jpg<br /><br />and this J10 seems to be ready before LCA comes to serviceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-28361443110724446202009-07-22T02:30:33.145-07:002009-07-22T02:30:33.145-07:00Hi Prasun,
Any latest updates on LCA LSP-3 or PV-5...Hi Prasun,<br />Any latest updates on LCA LSP-3 or PV-5; Arjun??? It seems all sources have dried up and no info. is coming forth.<br /><br />Thank you.<br /><br />Regards,<br />Khambat Dagha.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-40048209404907996502009-07-21T20:44:20.737-07:002009-07-21T20:44:20.737-07:00prasun,
the BMP-2 or Abhay based mortar is in dev...prasun,<br /><br />the BMP-2 or Abhay based mortar is in development i remember seeing its pics from DEFEX a year or so back. The need is for Army to get practical and start investing in such equipment being development in-house. Becoz the indian companies are the ones which will have to handle the production load id & when the war start as the international community WILL use munition denial tactics to stop the war which can be disastrous for India.<br /><br />So the real culprit in ignoring the development of bread & butter items in india is the ARMY not DRDO.<br /><br />As far as the rifle or carbine procurement goes i believe it is a result of the MINSAS not being up to the task and also its use of diff ammo(5.56*30mm not 5.56*45) which can create ammo short-fall in initial stages(a real possibility) also the procurement of a modern Carbine preferably a sub-compact assault rifle will aid in pushing the DRDO/OFB with modern metallurgy techniques for barrel prod. I also think tht the carbine purchase is more for the replacement f\of the ancient SAF Carbine 1A used by the IA.<br />Ur thoughts prasun?sachin_sathehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02104023701292128933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-67339138434342081192009-07-21T15:48:29.644-07:002009-07-21T15:48:29.644-07:00to prasun
Uralvagonzavod JSC of Russia's fut...to prasun <br /><br />Uralvagonzavod JSC of Russia's futuristic T-95 is being looked at for possible co-development between Russia and India.<br />------------------------------<br />this T95 tank has 152 mm calibur gun and from this kranspool can be fired on plains of rajasthan,gujrat,punjab and some parts of j&k<br /><br />no need to bring 155mm guns for this purposeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-41672713672015543822009-07-21T14:38:03.315-07:002009-07-21T14:38:03.315-07:00To Nava: Irregardless of the comparative performan...To Nava: Irregardless of the comparative performance trials of the Arjun Mk1 and T-90S/M, the procurement of Arjun Mk1 was frozen at 124 MBTs as far back as 2004. What has yet to be decided is whether to procure an additional 400 Arjun Mk2 variants (something similar to the Leopard 2A6), or forego this option and leapfrog straight to the future MBT (FMBT), which is what the Indian Army HQ prefers to acquire and to this end, the Uralvagonzavod JSC of Russia's futuristic T-95 is being looked at for possible co-development between Russia and India.Prasun K Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00369323150694008798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-41364942114438843982009-07-21T14:05:30.156-07:002009-07-21T14:05:30.156-07:00Oh no I meant the upcoming (?) comparative trials ...Oh no I meant the upcoming (?) comparative trials with the T 90 that I believe will determine the extent of the procurement. Correct me If I'm wrong of course.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16905910031853154585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-29236282082731231992009-07-21T13:51:42.590-07:002009-07-21T13:51:42.590-07:00To Nava: Not only was the decision made two years ...To Nava: Not only was the decision made two years ago, but deliveries are well underway. Check this out at: http://livefist.blogspot.com/2009/05/first-photos-army-gets-its-first-mbt.htmlPrasun K Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00369323150694008798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-53350005900601330042009-07-21T13:17:45.832-07:002009-07-21T13:17:45.832-07:00Sorry if I'm out of my element, but has a deci...Sorry if I'm out of my element, but has a decision been finally made about the Arjun's procurement?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16905910031853154585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-37364025169300425792009-07-21T12:55:37.118-07:002009-07-21T12:55:37.118-07:00To Subroto: The Kvitnyk is a cloned Krasnopol-M. F...To Subroto: The Kvitnyk is a cloned Krasnopol-M. From this was norn the COMBAT 125mm cannon-launched laser-guided anti-armour round (like the LAHAT). As for the Denel-developed RAP projectiles, when fired from FH-77B-type howitzers they can go out to 41km in the plains. The RAP round that went up to 53km in the plains was fired from the Bhim/T-6 tracked SPH, not from the FH-77B. However, up in the mountains, even a FH-77B can fire conventional HE rounds out to 41km due to the rarified atmosphere. The Indian Army's 81mm and 120mm mortar-based fire assault capabilities too need to be upgraded through acquisition of laser-guided projectiles, which are available from Israel, Russia and the US. There is also a need for turret-mounted breech-loading 120mm mortars that can be mounted on ICVs like the BMP-2 or Abhay. God alone knows why such 'basic' self-propelled indirect fire-support weapons have not yet been developed by the DRDO. What folks don't realise is that such indirect fire-support weapons capable of firing 'smart' mortar rounds are far more important during combined-arms 'contact' battles (involving fast-moving Company-/Battalion-sized mechanised infantry formations than the 155mm field artillery howitzers or MBRLs that are normally Divisional-level or Corps-level assets.Prasun K Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00369323150694008798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5154280302945875495.post-31970922911072268932009-07-21T12:35:23.273-07:002009-07-21T12:35:23.273-07:00Prasun,
You have mentioned earlier in this blog t...Prasun,<br /><br />You have mentioned earlier in this blog that Ukraine too has developed a clone of the Kransopol-M: Are you talking about the ‘Kvitnyk ‘that Ukraine has produced to compete with Kransopol.Can you post details of the Ukraine projectile?<br /><br />I heard that KBP is also reported to be working with Germany’s Diehl on a RAP laser-beam-riding round. Do you have any idea whether Denel which make the long range 155mm PRO-RAM projectile that can reach 70 km (M9703A1 V-LAP round) tested from the Indian FH-77B? Earlier it was mentioned in the news that Denel special velocity-enhanced Long Range Projectile (V-LAP) was fired from the Indian FH-77B during the trial and with a range of 53KM.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02818746787807501516noreply@blogger.com