Sunday, June 14, 2009

India-Specific Assorted News Briefs From Paris Air Show 2009










Indian company Samtel (hall 4, E16) has launched a full-colour cathode ray tube display at Le Bourget. The CRT is designed for Airbus aircraft and is integrated into a 6 x 6in (150 x 150mm) Thales display unit. Samtel has signed a contract with Thales to develop the CRT through its AS9100-certificated production facilities in India. The unit has been specified under strict supervision by Thales to match stringent air transport specifications and quality requirements. (Why is this being done in India when the world over everyone else is going for AMLCDs is anyone's guess!--Prasun)

Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) has signed a contract to supply a HAROP Loitering Munition (LM) system to a foreign customer, believed to be India. The contract is estimated to be worth over $100 million. Itzhak Nissan, President and CEO of IAI said: "HAROP is an extremely impressive system, and everyone at IAI is proud of this accomplishment. This is a state-of-the-art loitering munition system, which features accurate detection capabilities and minimizes collateral damage to the surrounding area." Separately, the German Armed Forces and the German Ministry of Defense (MOD) have approved an operational requirement utilizing IAI's HAROP system. The project will be implemented in cooperation with Rheinmetall Defense as the prime contractor. The German MOD has already invested funds for the adaptation of HAROP to its specific requirements. Part of the adaptation was successfully performed by a joint IAI/Rheinmetall Defense team, and a follow on contract is planned for this year. This activity is a reflection of the successful cooperation between IAI and Rheinmetall Defense, which has also included projects involving Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs). HAROP is a long endurance LM which can be launched from a variety of platforms, and is equipped with tactical UAV capabilities: high performance FLIR/ color CCD EO seeker with 3600 hemispherical coverage. It searches, detects, attacks and hits high value re-locateable, time critical, land or sea-based, moving targets with pinpoint accuracy at long ranges. A HAROP unit is comprised of LM launchers and a Mission Control Shelter (MCS) that enables missile control with a Man in the Loop operation, engagement or abort attack capability in real time, avoiding collateral damage. The HAROP can be applied to a variety of battle scenarios, including low and high intensity conflicts, urban warfare and counter terror operations. HAROP LMs are launched from transportable launchers and navigate towards the target area, where they loiter and search for targets. Once a target, static or moving, is detected, it is attacked and destroyed by the HAROP LM. The attack can be performed from any direction and at any attack angle, from flat to vertical which is highly essential in urban areas. The operator monitors the attack until the target is hit. Another HAROP LM can observe and send real time video of Battle Damage Assessment (BDA) to the operator. The operator can command to abort the attack in order to avoid collateral damage, returning the LM to loitering mode, and restart the attack later.

Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) has been awarded multiple orders of 34 units by India of its advanced Multi-Mission Radar (MMR) type EL/M 2084. ELTA Systems Ltd., a group and wholly owned subsidiary of IAI, is the prime contractor and developer of the EL/M 2084. ELTA's MMR addresses an emerging requirement to include all land-based radar functions in one operational unit. MMR combines a Weapon Locator Radar and an Air Defense Radar. The radar detects Surface-to-Surface medium- and short-range missiles, rockets and mortars, calculates the anticipated impact and launching points, and provides target data to air defense weapons systems. MMR is based on Active Electronically Steering Array (AESA) architecture and provides outstanding performance that was combat proven in the recent fighting in the Gaza Strip. The radar is mobile and scalable in order to meet different performance requirements. Scaling is performed by means of an antenna of varying physical size and the amount of transmit-receive (TR) module content. The current orders include 3 different versions of the radar.


Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) has recently signed a contract worth tens of millions of dollars to provide India with GRIFFIN 3, the Next Generation Laser Guided Bomb (NGLGB) Kit. The GRIFFIN 3 Kit is an advanced guidance kit which is attached to a general purpose or penetration aerial bomb. Itzhak Nissan, President and CEO of IAI, said: "The GRIFFIN 3 is a product which stands out in its exceptional accuracy and ability to ensure maximum penetration of a general or penetration aerial bomb". The GRIFFIN System provides much better hit accuracy than previous generation kits, even in high wind conditions or when aiming for a moving target. Another important feature of the GRIFFIN 3 is its trajectory shaping capability, which, when used with a penetration warhead, is integral to achieving maximum penetration. The GRIFFIN 3 has an optional GPS guidance feature to enable dual guidance capability, and is one of a wide range of IAI's laser guided munitions. Others include LAHAT, a lightweight missile for helicopters, armored vehicles, and tanks; Nimrod, a longer range laser guided missile; and Fire Ball, a laser guided rocket kit.


Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) has recently signed a contract with India to develop and supply the land-based Barak 8 Air and Missile Defense (AMD) System. The Barak 8 AMD, an advanced all-weather, day/night system capable of multiple simultaneous engagements in complex scenarios, provides a 360-degree defense against a wide variety of airborne platforms and munitions from short and medium ranges. The land-based system is based on the Naval Barak 8 AMD system that has been sold to the Israeli Navy and to foreign customers. Itzhak Nissan, IAI's President and CEO said: "We are very proud of the Barak 8 AMD system. IAI employed its technological and experiential knowledge-based on both the Naval Barak 8 AMD system, and on its four decades of work in the aerospace field to reach this significant accomplishment. The system is composed of a combination of IAI-manufactured products, creating a powerful system which can be a cornerstone to any defense plan." The Barak 8 AMD system includes a unique battle management, command, control, communication and intelligence center (BMC4I); an interceptor; and a Land-Based Multi-Function Surveillance, Track & Guidance Radar (LB-MF-STAR). The BMC4I, produced by the MBT Division of IAI's Missiles, Systems, and Space Group, offers both stand alone operation for a single fire unit, and joint task force coordination (JTC). The JTC mode allows for the synergy of all available resources, giving the user maximum operational flexibility. The Barak 8 interceptor, developed in collaboration with RAFAEL Advanced Defense Systems Ltd., can intercept at short and medium ranges. It is dual pulsed and has an advanced seeker, providing all-weather, day/night engagements in complex saturation scenarios. The interceptor is vertically launched from a mobile ground launcher.

The 196kg EL/M 20600 RTP recently ordered for the IAF’s upgraded Jaguar IS is a unique Radar Targeting Pod integrating High Performance Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) imaging, Ground Moving Target Indication (GMTI) and Precision Target Tracking.The RTP is a complete All-Weather, Autonomous Real Time System. It provides high quality radar images of ground targets and terrain from Stand-Off ranges, even through clouds, rain, fog, battlefield smoke and man-made camouflage. The RTP incorporates ELTA’s multi-year vast experience in the development and manufacturing of a varietyof radars including Airborne Fire Control, SAR, GMTI and Multi-Mission Suites. The RTP enables:
Long Range, Wide Area Surveillance & Reconnaissance
Detection, Classification, Precision Tracking and Targeting of Ground Targets
Optimized Time Sensitive Targets (TST) engagement
Network Centric Warfare (NCW) support: Target data sharing and “Kill Sequence” execution
Short Sensor-to-Shooter loop
Accurate Geo-location data for targets
Support of a wide variety of Air-to-Ground weapons
Installation on board Trainers, Helicopters andvarious A/C
The RTP supports fighter Air-To-Surface missions:
Real-Time Tactical/Armed Reconnaissance
Precision Strike of Stationary & Moving Ground Targets
Bomb Damage Assessment (BDA)

The EL/K-1891 on board the IAF’s PHALCON AEW & C platform is a full duplex X or Ku Band microwave Satellite Communication (SATCOM) network ideally suited for uninterrupted wideband over-the-horizon (OTH) communication. Each subscriber port of the SATCOM network can be either static or mobile (ground-based mobile, airborne or shipborne) and must be within the satellite's footprint area with its antenna tracking the satellite. Communications between any two subscribers is bidirectional and routed via standard links of a commercial geostationary satellite. The digital data rate on the carrier link can be as high as 128 kbps and can include voice, data and compressed JPEG video. The SATCOM network is employed for military, paramilitary and commercial applications.

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Anonymous said...

Thanks Prasun you made my day by posting the pics of Mig-35.

But this is not the real Mig-35 model for the IAF ,the real onces have 5 hardpoint under each wing.

Any info you manage to gather on the Mig-35 ?

Anonymous said...

what id this wall sized system-

http://events.thalesgroup.com/parisairshow2009/3636291240_e2e4c235f4_o.jpg_apercu0.jpg

Anonymous said...

>>http://events.thalesgroup.com/parisairshow2009/3636291240_e2e4c235f4_o.jpg_apercu0.jpg

its the prototype of the a prototype of the antenna for the anti-ballistic missile defence radar, M3R/GS 1000

Anonymous said...

Ground Smarter 1000
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GS1000 radar is a S band multifunction radar dedicated to Ballistic Missile Defence operations. GS1000 radar is based on M3R technological developments funded by DGA as well as the SR3D platform architecture that has been developed by Thales for the new surface radar family (GM400, SM400,…) It can be deployed in association with the SAMP/T weapon system or as a surveillance sensor integrated in an early warning network.

Key features:

* Digital beam forming
* Design compliant with ecological constraints (low power consumption, compliance with RoHS standards and related European directives)
* TBM detection and tracking up to 1000 km
* TBM tracking elevation coverage up to 85°
* Chosen and planned maintenance with limited team

Anonymous said...

Where is ADA hiding with LSP3 and PV5? Their n^th revised plan calls for all 8 LSP to fly by end 2009. I dont see that happening. I am betting on 2015 for LCA Mk1 and 2020 for LCA Mk2. Of course these are in-service-in-museum dates.

Anonymous said...

hey anon

todays new indian express carries a report on PV-5, its ready and expected to fly soon

Anonymous said...

n lca will not fly before 2012

Anonymous said...

http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=LCA%92s+final+prototype+to+take+off+soon&artid=WYvGisKwhbc=&SectionID=Qz/kHVp9tEs=&MainSectionID=wIcBMLGbUJI=&SectionName=UOaHCPTTmuP3XGzZRCAUTQ==&SEO=

The Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) programme has achieved another significant breakthrough as its final prototype vehicle PV-5 will soon take to the skies. The PV-5, one of the five prototype vehicles developed by the Aeronautical Development Agency is ready with the Engine Ground Run currently being carried on..........................“The Engine Ground Run precedes the low-speed taxi trial and the high speed taxi-trials, following which the first flight of the aircraft will take place,” said sources. “Once the weather improves the taxi trial will be carried and so will the first flight of the PV-5,” sources added.

mallumaverick said...

prasunji,
A few questions :
http://pilot.strizhi.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/img_6559_sm.jpg

*does the Mig29k for IN have gold plated canopy and additional tank/avionics bay in the rear seat?
*Has the Osprey been ever proposed to India or is India interested in it ?

mallumaverick said...

and one more thing, doesn't the huge airscrews cause disturbances to the Osprey's AEW radar ( as found in the case of Saab Erieye) both in terms of visual obstruction and audible noise ?
so is the USN planning to replace/offer Osprey AEW instead of E-2C/2D hawkeye ?

Unknown said...

As someone who's grown tired of following the endless speculation about the MRCA, I wonder if you could fill me in as to which AC has emerged as the favorite. I mean surely things aren't settled yet, but the wind has to be blowing in a certain direction, right?

Thanks

vishal said...

to bobby

what is the use of osprey even if sold it would not cost less than 100 million and in this price one can buy 9 mi17v5

Anonymous said...

india already bought P8,C130J,C17 or will buy chinooks/ch53 which will cost almost 8 billion dollars so the question of buying MRCA from US is out of sight

russia is bidiing for krivak frigates,diesel subs,30 more mig29k or possibly attack helicopters so it also cost almost 8 billion dollars so the question of buying MRCA from russia is also out of sight

MRCA going to be a european aircraft rafale/typhoon or 197 helicopters to eurocopter.

Anonymous said...

possibly around 50-60 mig35 may be ordered because there is need of 200 aircraft so mig35 has infrastructure already in india

Unknown said...

Hi all,
This is Subroto.
Some one is writing Rubbish by my name. Prasun Pls note it...

Anonymous said...

ramjet ADDER brochure

http://aeroweb.lucia.it/rap/Vympel/RVV-AE-PD.jpg

ramjet ADDER coloured picture
first one

http://www.testpilot.ru/russia/vympel/r/77/p/img/rvvpd_2.jpg

second one

http://www.testpilot.ru/russia/vympel/r/77/p/img/rvvpd.jpg

third one

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?s=1490890b580aa3b4076eb27f02740fb5&attachmentid=147210&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1162938667


Vertical Launch r77 SAM derivative

http://img156.exs.cx/img156/6012/vympelrvvaezrk7ih.jpg

Unknown said...

Hi Prasun,

Do you have any information in France about India-France co-development of quick-reaction surface-to-air missile named - Maitri? How much progress it made

Prasun K Sengupta said...

To Dr Sanjay Badri-Maharaj: My apologies for staying incommunicado for the past three days as I was busy attending the IMDS naval expo in St Petersburg. Your estimations of the number of Agni-1s and Agni-2s is correct, and as far as I know the idea is to cap the no of each missile at 36, including enough missiles for conducting annual or biannual test-firings under operational conditions.

To Sachin Sathe: The eventual Tejas Mk2 will have exactly the same capabilities as the Gripen IN or F-16IN. I was never a firm supporter in the on-going M-MRCA competition and since the original requirement was for replacments for MiG-23MFs, MiG-23BNs and early-model MiG-27Ms starting 2001, the ideal option would have been to lap up those Mirage 2000-5s that the French Air Force wanted to offload (and which the Brazilians later acquired) and upgrade them en masse (along with the IAF Mirage 2000s) by installing, among other items, the RBE-2 AESA. However, when this option wasn't exercised, the ideal way forward would have been to acquire an additional Su-30MKIs and acxcelerate the FGFA project so that it would have been available by 2015.

To Anon@12:57AM: The L-15's airworthiness certification process is still underway and will be completed by the year's end. Only then will series-production get underway.

To Anon@4:21AM: MPAs and AEW & C platforms are never targetted by BVRAAMs, unless they unknowingly stray into hostile airspace, which is highly unlikely in wartime. Therefore, no long-range BVRAAMs will be of any use then targetting such platforms.

To Anon@5:55AM: That naval radar from KVANT is a PPAR, not APAR. Received that confirmation two days ago at IMDS 2009. There is presently no Russian or Ukrainian equivalent of the THALES Nederland APAR or SAMPSON or HERAKLES or even the MF-STAR.

To Anon@6:08AM: R-37 or KS-172 is optimised for use against bombers like the B-1B or B-2, and not against MPAs or AEW & C platforms, which will always cruise well within protected airspace and with combat aircraft providing BARCAP. The only realistic way of neutralising MPAs or AEW & C platforms is by either destroying them on ground or rendering their air bases inoperable.

To Anon@6:51AM: There are YouTube video clips showing both the R-Darter and Ra'ad missiles being test-fired from ROSE-upgraded Mirage Vs.

To Anon@6:55AM: No Russian engineers are involved in any way with the ATV technology demonstrator, which uses technologies decades ahead of what the Charlie-1 SSN had.

Anonymous said...

Maitri is still in design phase. According to ACM interview in Vayu its induction date is 2015.

Prasun K Sengupta said...

To Anon@8:37PM: The MiG-35 scale-model shown at Aero india 2009 had 10 underwing pylons, while the one shown at Paris had eight. That is the best illustration of how unsure or unprepared the Ruskies are about the definitive MiG-35.

To Bobby: That's the gold coating for reducing the aircraft's frontal RCS. Behind the single-seater's cockpit is an additional fuel tank.
The V-22 Osprey was proposed for the Indian Air Force way back in 2005 and to the Indian Navy two years later. The AEW variant is being proposed for the Indian Navy, Royal Navy, Italy Navy and Japan's Maritime Self-Defense Force. For the Indian Navy, the E-2D Hawkeye 2000 is of no use as a carrier-based aircraft as it will not be able to take off from STOBAR decks. But the V-22 is a VTOL platform and in terms of payload and endurance is much more superior to the Ka-31. Coupled with aerial refuelling, one V-22 AEW & C platform can replace three Ka-31s. It is therefore a real force multiplier.

To Nava: It is still an open-ended competition and only after the flight-tests and evaluations have been concluded will a shortlisting emerge, similar to what happened in Norway and Switzerland. But in terms of marketing might and the size/volume of the industrual offsets proposals, I would say that Boeing IDS, Lockheed Martin and Eurofighter GmbH have the upper hand.

To Vishal: What, however, must be borne in mind is that the Mi-17V-5 will be replaced by the Mi-38 or the Ka-92 starting 2014, which means the spares problems of the type once faced by the IAF with regard to the MiG-23MFs and MiG-23BNs will once again affect the IAF's Mi-17 inventory, unless India decides to buy the Mi-17 production line outright from either Kazan or Ulan-Ude (like the Chinese have done with Ulan-Ude). But China has done this only because it cannot acquire any such production capability for this type of medium-lift helicopter from any Western helicopter manufacturer, which will always be China's first option. Let us not forget that when China wanted to co-develop a 7-tonne medium-lift helicopter for civilian applications, it turned to Eurocopter, and not to Russia. In India's case too, TATA has decided to manufacture/fabricate Sikorsky's S-92 airframes, this being an excellent example of a Western company unilaterally implementing industrial offsets even before being awarded a military contract. No Russian or European helicopter manufacturer can match such marketing efforts today and needless to say such industrial offsets will automatically enable India to reduce the direct procurement costs associated with any purchase of the S-92's military variants.

To Subroto: By this October the first test-firings of the Maitri SR-SAM are due to be conducted in India.

sbm said...

Thanks a lot: if Agni-2 production has stopped, can I safely assume 36 of each Agni (36 Agni-1 and 36 Agni-2) have been produced to date or is the figure of 20 Agni-2 more accurate ?

Prasun K Sengupta said...

To SBM: The figure of 36 for each missile-type has yet to be achieved but the no has gone beyond 22 for both.

sbm said...

So more than 22 Agni-2 and more than 22 Agni 1 ?

Is this produced or deployed ?

mallumaverick said...

prasunji, are you sure that the gold plating has been given to reduce the frontal rcs ? I believe the windshield is prominent than the canopy when the a/c is viewed from front.Pls explain. On the other hand, isn't gold-plating of canopies part of ECW and hence used for reducing emissions ?

Prasun K Sengupta said...

To SBM: That's right. 22+ of each produced so far. But of these, no more than 12 (six of each) are in actual deployment readiness, with the rest being held as strategic reserves in semi-knocked-down condition in about five dispersed sites.

To Bobby: I distinctly remember last year there was some DRDO statement about achieving indigenisation of such treated-canopies for the Tejas LCA and also possibly for the Su-30MKI and how this will significantly contribute to reducing the aircraft RCS. If the idea was to reduce electronic emissions then the gold coating would have been applied throughout the avionics bulkhead sections of the aircraft, and not only on the cockpit windshield and canopy.

sbm said...

Thanks Prasun. I take it the missiles in the reserve include launchers ?

If this is the case, this rather surprisingly confirms Bharat Karnad's assessment of some elements of the Indian deterrent being weaponized and operational while another larger part is being kept in reserve - secure from a first strike and deployable with notice.

Prasun K Sengupta said...

To SBM: yes, inclusive of the lsunchers, although I'm not exactly sure about the actual breakdown between railway-based launchers and road-mobile launchers. I also recall that sometime last year it was Brig (ret'd) Gurmeet Kanwal who had first revealed the nos of Agni-1 and Agni-2 produced, way before Bharat Karnad's rise to fame. It was an article in Rediff.com in which Kanwal was whacking the DRDO for non-performance.

Prasun K Sengupta said...

To Bobby: Here you go:
The Indian Institute of Technology, Roorkee, has claimed that it has developed a kind of coating material in their laboratory that can make aircraft invisible to any radar. It said the technology on which it worked to develop the radar absorbing nano-crystals was their brainchild and after NASA, India was only one to have successfully gained the technology. "Even a country like Russia could not achieve this so far," said Prof R.C. Agarwala of Metallurgical and Materials Engineering, who led the project. Prof Agarwala, who is known to be the first in the country to work on nanotechnology for materials development, started work on the radar-absorbing nano crystals in 1998. His research team included his wife Prof Vijay Agarwala who is also a faculty of the department and research scholar Rahul Sharma.

India could soon be the third country in the world, after the US and France, to have a stealth bomber fighter aircraft in its armoury. The Kolkata-based Indian Association for Cultivation of Science (IACS) has developed a technology to convert ordinary light combat aircraft into stealth jets that would go undetected on radar. The first stage of the experiment, which commenced in 1999, has been successfully concluded. The defence ministry has approved the technology and has given the go-ahead for "full-scale production" to begin. It is expected to start in about six months’ time. According to IACS scientists associated with the project, the technology uses a special material to construct a shield on the plexi-glass canopies. It is the glass cover of the cockpit that usually betrays the presence of an aircraft as it reflects the laser beam that is emitted to catch them on the radar. The shield will cover the cockpit and deflect the laser beam on the shield in all directions. "This will make sure the aircraft remains undetected on the radar. We are not sure if the same technology is used in France and the US. It has been developed in our own way and using our own techniques. If it works out well, this would be a big step for defence technology in India," said a scientist. Defence officials said the advanced combat aircraft made in the US and France have a similar shield on the plexi-glass canopies. "This shield gives the canopies a golden tinge. This special layer scatters the laser beams emitted from a radar site either on the ground or in the air (AWACS). We’ve been trying to develop this technology for some time. The shield developed by IACS will boost our indigenisation efforts," an official said. During the exercises at Kalaikunda where US F-16s took part, IAF officials got a closer look at the gold-tinted canopies. They also got a chance to test the technique by using ground-based radar. Interestingly, the F-16s from Singapore did not have the shield as the technology has not been transferred. The defence authorities were so impressed with the new technology that they decided to fast-track the process and start full-scale production of the canopy following a test at Jodhpur recently. "They had the option of going for a pilot project initially but they chose to skip it," said an IACS official. Fighter jets like Jaguars, MiGs, Mirages and Sukhois will now be fitted with this special canopy to enhance their stealth capabilities. One method is to Gold deposition with enough conductivity to present a reflecting surface to microwave, yet the film is thin enough to allow optical radiation pass though with little attenuation. That itself will reduce very significantly the large RCS from cockpit. Gold deposition is done either by CVD (Chemical Vapour Deposition).

Anonymous said...

That naval radar from KVANT is a PPAR, not APAR. Received that confirmation two days ago at IMDS 2009.
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it doesn't matter whether radar from kvant matches western radar or not main thing is detection range and number of threats detection simlutaneously

and this naval radar does just that and 200 km range is more than enough for SAM with range of 100-120 km

mallumaverick said...

prasunji, what I was talking about is if you have observed an EW a/c like Prowler ,you'll find gold plating is given to twin canopies to reduce effects of emission (from pods) inside the cockpit ...so i presumed that similar case might be for the mig29k.....coz it looks like one hell of a bird..with AAR,additional fuel tank.etc..in the league of F-15E...totally different from vintage fulcrums...anyway my knowledge is limited to what I see and observe...I hope you must be having better contacts and sources to verify this.
thanks.

Anonymous said...

to prasun

tata is producing only some parts of s92 airframe helicopters.
and all other components and spares will be sourced from US

mi38 made its first flight in 2003 and it may be available by 2011

and as for spares of mi17 let me remind u that even mi35 still in production for brasil/indonesia despite there are mi28,ka50/52

so mi17 will be in production for long time to come
india can go with russia for joint developemnt of mi46 as HAL need foreign partner for 10 ton capability helicopter and build them in india and total developemnt cost won't exceed 200 million

or india can go with US on the development of ch53k which will have 16 ton capability but it will be costly for sure

while buying chinnok off the shelf for a billion dollars won't help in this regard

mallumaverick said...

prasunji,sorry i didn't see your post...thanks for posting that article...I had heard abt it, but I remember reading an article that time ,which described the nano-crystal tech as some RAM paint...maybe they goofed up while reporting! If its a canopy coating technique then it augurs well for India.

Anonymous said...

to anon @ june 26,3:51pm
andrew cristofarto, pls stop farting around here....pls take your crap to BR...you'll find many similar creatures for company.

sbm said...

The only article I saw was that by Bharat Verma on Rediff who quoted figures of 8 Agni-1 and 24 Agni-2.

http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/jan/15guest.htm

I thought the article was very misleading.

Millard Keyes said...

Don't wish to be critical just clarifying: "Prof Agarwala, who is known to be the first in the country to work on nanotechnology for materials development, started work on the radar-absorbing nano crystals in 1998. His research team included his wife Prof Vijay Agarwala who is also a faculty of the department and research scholar Rahul Sharma" - did you mean to have a comma after 'his wife' otherwise it is unusual reading.

Anonymous said...

Prasun any thing interesting from IMDS specially on Amur submarine and India's 2nd line submarine program.

Anonymous said...

sbm, stats on BMs and other strategic weapons are never made public anywhere. Needless to say these are the most guarded secrets. How do you expect to derive the number of Agni 1/2 out of information available in public domain when there is no clarity on even figures like no of Su-30 in IAF service.

sachin_sathe said...

prasun

Indian polititians are not known for common sense quite otherwise

If these two contendes r as capable as the Tejas Mk.2 then whts the point in inviting them for technical trials?

there was some news on net tht russians are going to market Amur 1650 for 2nd line sub prog.I think it came some 2 weeks back.Wht theheck does tht mean? r they going to compete on their own?If so then can u repost the article u posted some time back on the contenders?

Can u post the details of astra BVR-AAM?

How useful can the osprey be while operating at ALG's like fukche or chushul?

What is ur take on the ccs's decision to build all the P-17a frigates in india and the allocation of 9bn $ including the upgradation of both shipyards

Anonymous said...

Prasun K Sengupta said...To Anon@6:51AM: There are YouTube video clips showing both the R-Darter and Ra'ad missiles being test-fired from ROSE-upgraded Mirage Vs.

Please post a link i am not able to find one

Unknown said...

Hi,

India in Dec 2008 already signed a contract with the Rafael-Israel $260 million for the supply of 18 SPYDER (Surface-to-air Python and Derby) low level quick reaction missile system (LLQRM) for the Indian Air Force.

Indian Army too wants to Induct the SPYDER systems.

The SPYDER-SR (short range) system has 360° engagement capability and the missiles can be launched from the full-readiness state in less than five seconds post target confirmation. The kill range is specified as being less than 1km to more than 15km. The altitudes range from a minimum of 20m to a maximum of 9,000m. The system is capable of multi-target simultaneous engagement and also single, multiple and ripple firing, by day and night and in all weathers.

Can you highlight why India exactly need to develop the quick-reaction surface-to-air missile named - Maitri with France when it is already purchasing the same kind of systems from Israel.

Anonymous said...

Maitri is required to keep DRDO in business. Just like HAL is now developing LOH when we have decided to import light utility helicopters. You see we cant develop things we havn't already seen.

Anonymous said...

Jas-39 Gripen draws first blood!

http://www.thelocal.se/19938/20090608/

Anonymous said...

MICA DERBY AND R-DARTER ALL looks to be same category with no match for R-77 or AIM-120

Anonymous said...

This thread is going nowhere. A new post is long overdue Prasun.

Anonymous said...

Is the ship shown in this Paket-E/NK antitorpedo defence system video the Indian ordered Krivak 3/4?

Anonymous said...

Is the ship shown in this Paket-E/NK antitorpedo defence system video the Indian ordered Krivak 3/4?
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thanks

we need this system on all of our ships

and can you also tell what is the design of the new frigates which india going to buy from russia is that groshkov class frigate

Anonymous said...

Prasun K Sengupta said...To Anon@6:51AM: There are YouTube video clips showing both the R-Darter and Ra'ad missiles being test-fired from ROSE-upgraded Mirage Vs.

Please post a link i am not able to find one

Mullah Mahdi said...

prasun, I think you have created a new record with the no. of posts on this thread.the previous record was held by Colonel Ajai with his infamous Navy ALH article.so how are you planning to celebrate it ?

Prasun K Sengupta said...

To Mullah Mahdi: Haven't had any spare time to think about it, as I've been quite busy for the past two days, gearing up to open the latest addition to my MRO business modules: a FAA-certified workshop to repair propellers for fixed-wing general aviation aircraft.

Anonymous said...

hey prasun whats the name of your company is there a website we want to look

Anonymous said...

to prasun

india has pechora SAM are there any plans to upgrade those SAMs like Polish Newa-SC 100% digital upgrade for radar and missiles

Anonymous said...

video of Phased Array Radar for Small Ships, EL-M/2248

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnVM99INuHI&feature=related

Unknown said...

You mention that the Jaguar IM possess the EL/M-2032 multimode fire control radars. I understand that a contract was signed with Elta in 1996 for the supply of ten EL/M-2032 radars to replace the original nose-mounted Agave system. Can you tell me if all Jaguar IM now have the EL/M-2032 fitted? Also, can you tell me if the Jaguar IM cockpits have been upgraded just like the Jaguar IS? If so have they been upgraded to DARIN II standard?

Anonymous said...

wow prasun, you seem to be growing by leaps and bounds....just like your waistline....best wishes for your professional career and future.
Btw, do you service old single blade Hartzell props ?

Anonymous said...

and also do you have any avionics kits for Cessna 150,152 ? I have a couple of cessna(without flight displays),purchased for scrap. I am planning to retrofit them and sell it to colleges.

Prasun K Sengupta said...

To Sean: The Jaguar IMs were upgraded 8 years ago and the DARIN-2 nav-attack system was installed as well. The ssme thing is now being done with the Sea Harriers. BTW the EL/M-20600 RTP works in the electromagnetic spectrum while the Litening 2/3 works in the visual spectrum. The question of one replacing the other does not arise at all. Got it?

Prasun K Sengupta said...

To Anon@4:17AM: Many thanks for your compliments. The waistline that you've seen was of July 2005 vintage. Things are very very much different now (on the slimmer side). Hartzell and Hamilton Standard propellers will be serviced at my facility. Regarding the on-board avionics for retrofit on Cessna 150/152, it depends on what you want: whether to restore the conventional instrumentation, or installing glass cockpits, in which case the Garmin-supplied GS-1000 will be the best and cheapest as it is already proven and certified. I've already handled such cockpit upgrades before and am now working on upgrades for four Cessna 206s.

Prasun K Sengupta said...

Details are now emerging about the former Minister of State for Defence Rao Inderjit Singh being possibly involved with Ludhiana-based R K Machine Tools, which was the beneficiary of a sub-contract from BEML regarding the rubberised tracks for the Arjun Mk1 MBT.

Unknown said...

Thank you.

So can one assume that the EL/M-20600 RTP will therefore complement the Litening? Although will the Jaguar actually carry both at the same time? I'm thinking about weight and stores space.

BTW the visual spectrum is part of the EM spectrum but I think I follow what you mean.

Do you know which version of the Litening pod the Jaguars currently use?

Anonymous said...

Glass cockpits in cessna 150 series are new thing for me (might be good for 172)...what I wanted to do was to restore the aircraft to working condition so that I can perform ground runs...so, a full fledged cockpit display would be handy..so how do I order those kits ?also tell me about availability of analog instrumentation...and one more thing, do you service old rusted O-200 & O-235 ?

Prasun K Sengupta said...

To Sean: No, not two pods at the same time. It is either, or, depending on the mission profile and to-be-engaged targets. Radar targeting pods are usually carried by aircraft that lack an airborne radar capable of ground moving target indication (like existing Jaguar IS and MiG-27M). In a strike package comprising six Jaguar IS, for example, only one will carry the RTP for target search, with the rest carrying LDPs. The Jaguar IS currently uses Litening-2 LDP.

To Anon@12:46PM: Boy oh boy! Analogue instrumentation is available but not recommended as they're quite expensive compared to digital glass cockpit suites. I'm sure aviation engineering colleges today will opt for such upgrades instead of sticking to legacy cockpits that are no longer in demand. Rgarding servicing old rustic airframes/engines/accessories, no I don't touch them. Prefer to stick to stuff that is in airworthy and serviceable condition and with valid certification of airworthiness.

Unknown said...

Do the IAFs Jaguars currently have any radar guided air-to-ground weapons?

Prasun K Sengupta said...

The Jaguar IS doesn't. Not required. The upgraded Jaguar IMs are due to receive new-generation anti-ship cruise missiles for which the AGM-84L Harpoon Block 2 has emerged as the winner of a competitive bidding process that was conducted last year. Hopefully the 120 to-be-upgraded Jaguar IS are equipped with MIL-STD-1773 digital databus and fly-by-light flight control systems, as the latter had already been flight-tested way back in the mid-1980s by BAE Systems on board a Jaguar IS testbed.

Unknown said...

Sorry - meant to say radar guided air-to-air missiles.

Raj said...

RE Sanjay Badri Maharaj


The IAF order for MRSAM is for 435 missiles in 18 batteries.

Anonymous said...

Prasun K Sengupta do you know by when PAF will get its first 50 JF-17?? and how many by 2015??

I heard the last cas saying that PAC will produce 15 in 2009 and 30 from 2010 but now new CAS is saing that this year only 6 will be produce

Anonymous said...

To Anon above,
I have also heard that the latest contracted 42 JF-17 are to be delivered over the next 3 years. PAF already has 8.
Can you give a link to the latest CAS statement.

Anonymous said...

JF-17 production:
8 already acquired
6 by 2009 end
12 in 2010
15-20 in 2011
rest in first half of 2012?

http://www.onlinenews.com.pk/details.php?id=147642

I think Pakistan will gradually ramp up production in the following way-
6 in 2009
12 in 2010
18 in 2011
24 in 2012 (start of follow on 100 jets)
30 in 2013

This way PAF may have 150 JF-17 in 2015.
It will be intresting to see if PAF remains intrested in JF-17 beyond 2015 or will they switch over to J-10 production.

Anonymous said...

to prasun about upgraded mig27

as per shiv's article in jan of this year it says

DARE took up the challenge of developing the mission critical software. Over half a million lines of code were developed adhering to stringent real time constraints and requisite software engineering requirements

The upgraded MiG-27 is equipped with

Inertial Navigation & Global Positioning System (INGPS) providing accurate Navigation.

Laser Designator Pod (LDP)

Laser Ranger & Marked Target Seeker (LRMTS)

Moving map generator

The introduction of LDP has enhanced the Night Attack Capability.
--------------------------------
can you tell from which company LDP and LRMTS adopted for mig27 upgrade

and how does LDP helps in night attack capability

Prasun K Sengupta said...

The LDP is Litening-2 and the LRMTS is from THALES. The LDP enables one to acquire and view the target at night, it's that simple.

Anonymous said...

to prasun

does LDP LITENING2 pod work as LANTRIN pod in night

Anonymous said...

to prasun

please explain the difference of work done by Laser Designator Pod and Laser Ranger & Marked Target Seeker

lantrin pod mounted flir helps pilot to fly in night time(it shows the clear picture of ground ahead on HUD) so how does mig27 pilot fly during night with the help of LDP

asking question because i have no knowlege of this

thanks

Prasun K Sengupta said...

The LDP can be used for all-weather medium-altitude navigation as well as for target acquisition and weapons guidance for laser-guided precision weapons. The LANTIRN comprises two pods: one for all-weather low-level navigation and the other for performing the role of the LDP. That is why LANTIRN-equipped combat aircraft (Like the F-15E and several F-16C/Ds) have hollographic HUDs on which the imagery acquired by the LANTIRN's navigation pod is superimposed with the HUD's weapons engagement/flight navigation symbology. On the Su-30MKI the LDP's target imagery is not superimposed on the wide-angle HUD; instead it is displayed in two of the AMLCDs in the front and rear cockpits. The same goes for the Jaguar IS and MiG-27Ms that have been upgraded. The LDP used by these two aircraft types is used for target acquisition and weapons guidance for laser-guided precision weapons. The nose-mounted LRMTS is employed for acquiring the target and deriving the fire-control solution for the on-board navigation-and-attack system (like the DARIN-2). It is not used for guiding any kind of laser-guided weapon. Therefore, the LRMTS is activated only when the aircraft is closing in on the target (while navigating with the help of the combined moving map display that gives course-correction updates based on either gyroscopic inputs or navigational GPS inputs). Therefore, the LRMTS is not used for guiding any kind of laser-guided weapons. Rather, it is used to ensure accurate engagement of ground targets with unguided bombs.

Anonymous said...

to prasun

it means upgraded mig27 can caryy LGBs as well

also can sniper/ATFLIR pods and domacles pod on rafale work to provide navigation as well

Anonymous said...

to prasun

which LRMTS and naviagation pod will be installed on darin3 upgrade on jaguars will it be el/m 20600 or it will be litening 2 pod as in mig27

Anonymous said...

which MRCA contender has MIL-STD-1773 bus instead of dual-redundant MIL-STD-1553B bus

Unknown said...

The latest two-seat Jaguar ITs produced are combat capable as they possess DARIN 2 upgrade and can carry Litening pod. Are these new ITs used as trainers or are they specifically for combat roles with the backseater acting as a WSO? Do they perform SEAD for example? Are there any anti-radar missiles that the Jaguar can carry?

Anonymous said...

The ATV is likely to be launched on July 26 (Vijay Diwas)

http://twitter.com/livefist/statuses/2453162205

Prasun, are you ready with your long promised article on ATV?

Anonymous said...

is MESMA being installed on scorpene submarines thats why it got late by two years or not?

Unknown said...

To Anon@July 03, 2009 10:28:00 AM

No,First 3 Submarine will not have MESMA AIP tech, only the last 3submarine will have.

Delay in many reasons:

1. The delay is largely attributed to the reluctance of DCNS to reveal vital details of the submarine’s design and know how, reneging on terms of the technology transfer agreement. Technology transfer is an integral part of the deal for the construction of the six Scorpenes in India, and had been agreed upon at the time of inking the contract in 2005. The agreement includes providing technology and design details, consultancy and components to Mazagon Dock where construction of the first Scorpene submarine commenced last May. Work is reportedly lagging behind schedule, as the French are not prepared to share critical technical data.

2.Mazgaon Dock is facing problem with the import of Raw materials for the scorpene.DCNs are demanding more money for the raw materials.

Unknown said...

Hi Prasun,

I have heard that MOD has now approached to the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS)for fresh approval for the cost escalation of the scorpene submarine as France is demanding virtually double the money to supply some critical equipment (MDL procured material packages).

What is the status right now?

Prasun K Sengupta said...

To Anon@6:54PM: Yes, the MiG-27M too can carry the Litening-2 LDP if required. The ATFLIR, SNIPER and Damocles pods too can be used for navigation by visual means when flying at around 15,000 feet, but they're not employed as the primary navigational tool.

To Anon@6:58PM: The to-be-upgraded IAF Jaguars will do away with LRMTS as thr nose-section will house the AESA radar, which will also be able to operate in the ground moving target mode and therefore no separate radar targeting pod will be required. The Litening-3 pod will go on board as well. There will not be any navigation pods as the Litening-3 pod enables the aircraft to launch LGBs from an altitude of 40,000 feet, whereas the Litening-2 is effective only up to 20,000 feet. In other words, the IAF will practically do away with terrain-hugging flight profiles since specially configured Jaguars or even Su-30MKIs equipped with up to three EL/L-8222 EW pods will provide effective wideband jamming of hostile air defence radars.

To Anon@7:05PM: Only the F-16IN at the moment, although as I stated earlier BAE Systems in the early 1980s flight-tested a Jaguar IS fitted with a fly-by-light flight control system. The FGFA too will have such a flight control system (and the consequent MIL-STD-1773 digibus), as will the S-92 and AW-101 helicopters. The CSIO in Chandigarh too is trying to develop such FCS for the Dhruv ALH.

To Sean: The Jaguar ITs are now used purely as interdictors and were in the late 1990s also used for training future Su-30MKI aircrew pairs. And no, they don't perform any SEAD/DEAD missions as such missions (before the Su-30MKI's arrival) were performed by the Mirage 2000H when equipped with THALES-built BAREM EW pods and MBDA-built ARMAT anti-radiation missiles. Now the Su-30MKIs equipped with EL/L-8222 EW pods and the 'Siva' DF pod and Kh-31P Krypton missiles perform the DEAD missions. The IAF has already flight-tested the 'Siva'/Kh-31P Krypton combination on the upgraded MiG-27M as well.

To Anon@6:45AM: What long-promised article are you referring to? I had already posted long ago the article relating to both 'Project Aakangsha' and 'Project India' as AFAIK I'm the only one to have done so thus far.

To Anon@10:28AM & Subroto: There will be NO MESMA on any of the six Scorpenes. It is simply not required. AIP modules are required by bigger SSKs like the Agosta 90B and that too only when operating in deeper waters. The Scorpene will not be operating in such waters, instead it will be operating in shallow depths along the coastline. But the Scorpenes will be fitted with low-frequency active thin-line towed-array sonars. And in terms of the overall contract there's no delay at all. The delay only pertains to the hull-construction schedule for the first two Scorpenes but MDL has made up for it by commencing construction of the 3rd and 4th SSK hulls ahead of schedule. It is all detailed in FORCE June 2009 issue where the MDL Chairman's interview has been published. DCNS has already opened its Project Office in Mumbai and no one from DCNS is with-holding any contractual ToT components from anyone. The cost-escalation factor was anticipated but solutions could not be found in time by the Union Finance Ministry. There is nothing untoward about it, just bureaucratic delays from the Indian side, plus the delayed delivery of raw materials from SAIL.

Unknown said...

The Jaguar also operates in the recce role using the Vinten VICON 18 Series 601 (GP) reconnaissance pod.Is recce carried out by all five Jaguar squadrons (Nos 5, 6, 14, 16, 27 and 224)(I have not included 6 Sqn as it operates in the maritime strike role) or is recce carried out by specific squadrons?

Do you think the Vinten pod will be phased out when the EL/M-26000 arrives or is another recce pod planned?

With regards to 6 Sqn which also operates the Jaguar IS - are these also equipped to carry the Sea Eagle ASM?

Prasun K Sengupta said...

Both the Vinten-built Vicon-18 and Sea Eagle ASCM were decommissioned years ago for both the Jaguar IS and Sea Harrier FRS Mk51. Now the Condor LOROP pod is used, while the AGM-84L Harpoon Block 2 has been selected to replace the Sea Eagle.

Anonymous said...

to prasun

so which LDP for navigation upgraded mig27 has

and what is the function of siva pod in conjunction with kh31p?

is SIVA pod used to find accurate location of radars on ground so that kh31p can be fired

Anonymous said...

prasun,

why harpoon was selected does it gives better range upto 300km compared to kh35 with 130km range or exocet upto 70-180km range

Anonymous said...

To Prasun

which varient of kh59 IAF has

Kh-59ME :115 km
Kh-59MK : 285 km

can u post more info on 3 varients of kh59

is kh59mk more related to slam er or storm shadow or taurus

Unknown said...

Is recce carried out by all five Jaguar squadrons (Nos 5, 6, 14, 16, 27 and 224)(I have not included 6 Sqn as it operates in the maritime strike role) or is recce carried out by specific squadrons?

With regards to 6 Sqn which also operates the Jaguar IS - were these also equipped to carry the Sea Eagle ASM?

Unknown said...

To Prasun,

But it was already in the news that last 3 scorpene submarine buit by MDL will have Mesma air-independent propulsion (AIP) systems.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Navy-wants-Scorpenes-to-become-more-lethal/articleshow/1380996.cms


http://www.india-defence.com/reports/1231


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorp%C3%A8ne_class_submarine

Prasun K Sengupta said...

To Subroto: The contract documents for the Scorpene SSK procurement only state that from SSK Hull No4 India will be free to make structural modifications to the hull to accommodate non-DCNS hardware like thin-line towed-array sonar and a VLS module for six BrahMos anti-ship cruise missiles. The MESMA was offered but was rejected by the Navy as the AIP is not required as per the Navy's envisaged operational deployment plans for the Scorpene.
By the way, you must have read about Israel Aerospace Industries being forced out of the M-MRCA bids. Reminds me of the self-styled 'anonymous microwave engineer' who had earlier insisted that the ELTA-built EL/M-2052 AESA will not go on board the Gripen IN. Guess he's eating his own shit now. Anyway, the real story has not yet emerged even from Israel and I'll try to upload the recent 'behind-the-scenes' arms wrangling that led to this decision by the US and Israelis.

Unknown said...

To Prasun,

Yes I got the news. This is the worst news I heard after a long time. I was remembering the good period that we had with the USA during the Bush Administration. In 2001 also there was same kind of restriction from being transfer of Israeli Arrow-2 Anti-Tactical Ballistic missile sale to India.
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The Israeli Defense Ministry ordered IAI to back out of the deal after the Pentagon expressed concern that American technology, used by Israel, would be integrated into the Gripen offered to the Indians.

The stated concern was that western technology in Israeli hands would make its way to the Indians," The Jerusalem Post quoted an Israeli official, as saying.
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Why USA is bidding for the MMRCA if they do not want to transfer key technologies to India?
If the news is correct then, it will have negative impact on the US-India defence relationship.India must raise its concern to the US govt.

Unknown said...

Yup bad news indeed. The Indo Israeli
front has been rather quiet recently, I hope things aren't drying up as I happen to know how much the money is needed and in some cases what for.

Prasun K Sengupta said...

To Subroto & Nava: Relax, for what you've read thus far is only 1/10th of the story. Will be uploading the 'balance' within the next few minutes. So stay tuned in.

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