Friday, October 24, 2008

Boeing’s P-8I MMA Detailed

A team led by Boeing Integrated Defense Systems on April 13, 2006 submitted its first detailed proposal to develop and deliver the P-8I long-range maritime reconnaissance and anti-submarine warfare (MR/ASW) aircraft for the Indian Navy. The proposal, destined to fulfill an Indian Navy requirement for eight such aircraft, calls for developing an India-specific variant of the P-8I Multi-mission Maritime Aircraft (MMA), which is currently being developed for the US Navy as a replacement for existing Lockheed Martin P-3C Orions. The Indian Navy has to date received offers from EADS/Airbus (for the A319MPA) Boeing, Embraer (for its P-99), Dassault Aviation (for its Falcon 900MPA) and Rosoboronexport State Corp (for its upgraded Tu-142MSD), with the winner replacing the Navy’s existing eight Tu-142M Mod 3 long-range MR/ASW aircraft by 2012. Boeing’s proposal includes significant industrial participation for India’s growing aerospace industry, test and certification activities, and eight aircraft delivered over a four-year period. Under the Indian Navy’s request for proposals, bids were to be submitted by April 13, with first deliveries occurring within 48 months of the contract award. Boeing is the prime contractor and systems integrator for the P-8I MMA, and it leads an industrial team including CFM, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon and Smiths Industries. The US Navy plans to purchase 108 aircraft, with deliveries beginning in 2009.

Capable of extended broad-area and littoral MR/ASW operations for ten hours at a stretch, the P-8I MMA uses Boeing’s B.737-800 airframe, is powered by twin CFM56-7 turbofans each rated at, 27,300lb of takeoff thrust, and its wings will feature commercially proven raked or backswept wingtips. The P-8I MMA will be equipped with a mission avionics/sensor suite comprising:

* Northrop Grumman’s electro-optical/infra-red (EO/IR) sensor, the directional IR countermeasures system, electronic support measures system, secure data link, and mission-planning support hardware.

* Raytheon’s upgraded APY-10 maritime surveillance radar and signals intelligence (SIGINT) solution; a GPS anti-jam, integrated friend or foe, and towed decoy self-protection suite; a broadcast information system (BIS); and secure UHF SATCOMS capability.

* Smiths Aerospace’s flight-management and stores-management systems.

Flight-test delivery of the first P-8A MMA is slated for 2009, with initial operational capability and series-production following by 2012. Elsewhere in East Asia, other prospective customers of the P-8A MMA in future could include Australia, Indonesia, Japan, Malaysia, New Zealand, South Korea and Taiwan.--Prasun K. Sengupta

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

to prasun


JAPAN was never interested in P8I

as i already said

The development contract for the P-8 Poseidon alone is $3.89 billion

the total development cost for the kavasaki PX,CX aircraft has been 345 billion Yen (or roughly equal to $2.9 billion), which is comparably low to similar programs

that was the same reason
JAPAN walked out of boeing P8 cuz it was too costly

and v bought costly and inferior P8 aircraft for 2.2 billion while cheaper a319 was available to us without end user agreement.and being US aircraft there will b always such problems like on site problems by americans

P8 has no match against tu142 in range and payload with similar electronics

Anonymous said...

to prasun

it shows OUR IODIOT NAVY CHIEF criticised goshkov price hike

but he can't c here EADS offer was
0.6 million cheaper than P8I,v could have saved this much money and this is no small money

now what is this EADS offer was much better cheaper,an open architecture,no end user agreement,no on site inspection

Anonymous said...

to prasun

australia,s.korea,japan,newzealand,singapore,turkey,athens r american colonies better not to talk about them,they all buy US stuff even if better stuff is available

our NAVY CHIEF can't c that navy bought junk JALASHVA in which sailors and officer died and when HMS INVINCIBLE is available immidiately to replace INS VIRAAT

navy bought decommissioned helicopters from US for what and whats wrong with dhruv,could they not buy beter helicopters from europe,

sea kings have aleady finished their lives so what was the reason to buy decommissioned sea kings from US

Prasun K Sengupta said...

Regarding the MSDF's Kawasaki PX requirement, all that has been shown is the aircraft in green condition undergoing flight tests. Just you wait for the aircraft's mission sensor/mission management suite to be selected and don't be surprised if you find on board ALL US-built systems.

Now, it will be premature to harshly criticise the Indian Navy's CNS because the procurement price on offer DOES NOT include the direct/indirect offset packages that can greatly reduce the ACTUAL procurement costs. Therefore it is no use blaming the Navy and instead one should ask the MoD and MoF why they did not insist on or ask for Airbus to offer a substantial industrial offsets package similar to the one proposed by Boeing and which is now being implemented in Nagpur and Bangalore. I say this because in India it is only the civilians that discuss pricing with various vendors, and the armed forces are allowed to conduct only technical negotiations, and strictly stay away from any price negotiations issues. Same goes for the LPD Jalashva as well.
But you are wrong about the Sea Kings. The Mk42Bs and Mk42Cs in service have not even touched the 10,000 flight-hour mark. Same goes for the ex-US Navy Sea Kings. They have a 60,000-flight hour airframe life and are therefore good to go for another 15 years. And you cannot compare the Sea King with the Dhruv ALH as the former outclasses the Dhruv in terms of endurance and internal volume.

Anonymous said...

to prasun

ur r wrong about KAWASAKI P-1 except weopans all electronic will b provided by JAPANESE COMPANIES

Avionics

Radar Toshiba Active Electronically Scanned Array radar system

Sound NEC Multistatic sound Navigation system

ASW SHINKO ELECTRIC CO.,LTD. Advanced combat direction system

Other Mitsubishi Electric Countermeasure system (CMD,RWR,MWS,ESM)
---------------------------------------------
neither i am convinced with ur
"instead one should ask the MoD and MoF why they did not insist on or ask for Airbus to offer a substantial industrial offsets package similar to the one proposed by Boeing and which is now being implemented in Nagpur and Bangalore."


if that b the case US offered offsets to poland for f16 deal but what happened,what was promised in the actual offset policy,US did not complied to that offset policy.

australia paying $10billion for 10 years of support of just 24 aircraft this shows the life cycle cost of american fighters

just c japan it got TOT for f15 can it make its own fighter SIMPLE AMSWER BIG NO

its F-2 fighter program is a BIIIIG DISASTER,japan has TOT for this fighter too can it make its own fighter NO

can japan make equivalent pf
f100/110 series of engines simple answer BIIIIG NO

v blame russia over TOT OF AL31 engines,russia didn't even transfered this tech to china even for lot of money

TOT an OFFSETS r just fake things they might look better on paper but when the actual time comes to implement those all countries hesitate.

v have TOT for su30mki tell me where v can use it in LCA or somewhere else it shows TOT DOESN'T make ur country self reliant

if country need to b self reliant u need to STEAL THE TECH

or what will v do the TOT for MRCA

both 737 and a319 r proven aircraft both consume lower fuel and no complain about airbus aircafts.

jalashva is a junk simple fact and navy could also buy INVINCIBLE WITH
NH-90 OR EH101
what was need to buy sea kings

better go for A319 MMA

Anonymous said...

...develop and deliver the P-8I long-range maritime reconnaissance and anti-submarine warfare (MR/ASW) aircraft for the Indian Navy?


isn't it already developed?

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